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Captain Scarlet
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18 years ago

Does anyone know the location of this artifac http://www.mine-explorer.co.uk/view_picture.asp?id=5127

Me & Wenders have done a lot of exploration in BH, most recently last Saturday but we have been unable to locate it. Any info would be gratefully received.. 😉

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jagman
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18 years ago

"Nimrod" wrote:
Does anyone know the location of this artifac http://www.mine-explorer.co.uk/view_picture.asp?id=5127

Me & Wenders have done a lot of exploration in BH, most recently last Saturday but we have been unable to locate it. Any info would be gratefully received.. 😉

Never seen it Nimrod
It's either in a small corner somewhere long forgotten or dare I say it, no longer there?

simonrl
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18 years ago

It does look like an old photo.

Although NOI intended to the chap if he still sports pictured jumper and coiffure...

my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by

Captain Scarlet
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18 years ago

Hmmmm Its possible it has become inaccessible but I hope not. On the plus side BH is such a massive labyrinthine U/G playground that its possible we just haven't got to it yet. On Saturday we got to 4 new areas we had not seen before and would have done more had we taken a rope. Ahh well... lots more juicy exploring 😉 😉

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jagman
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18 years ago

"Nimrod" wrote:
Hmmmm Its possible it has become inaccessible but I hope not. On the plus side BH is such a massive labyrinthine U/G playground that its possible we just haven't got to it yet. On Saturday we got to 4 new areas we had not seen before and would have done more had we taken a rope. Ahh well... lots more juicy exploring 😉 😉

Yeh it is kinda vast. I've spent weeks in there and still get lost most times I visit! But then I do tend to wander without paying much attention to where I am 😉

Heb
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18 years ago

It's still accessible, but I think the bloke has moved on now! Give me a shout Nimrod, i'll try and remember the way to it.

Captain Scarlet
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18 years ago

Found It :thumbsup:

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Brownley-Hill-Mine-Lead-Mine-User-Album-Image-027/[/img]

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christwigg
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13 years ago

Resurrecting 4 year old thread......

Where was it ?
I don't think i've ever see that.

John Lawson
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13 years ago

The photo the Colonel was referring to almost certainly was taken in the days the West Cumberland mine research group carried out their important B.H. Explorations.
Mick was one trail blazers in the group he made the brake through into Bog Shaft from the Longcleugh Stopes accessed via the Smallcleugh random.
I cannot remember exactly where it is located but it is the area where Jug Vein meets Brownley Hill Vein.
At this particular junction you can acess a stope working on the B.H. Vein which you climb up and in the collapsed workings up there this fan is located, partially buried in debris as the second photo shows.
Whilst I expect some detioration of the ground in this area I would have thought that you should be able to get to the fan.

christwigg
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13 years ago

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I've been around that area a couple of times but never with as much free time as I would have liked to search everywhere.

I'm sure i'll be back there again next year so will have a closer look.

moorlandmineral
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13 years ago

#11

"jagman" wrote:

"Nimrod" wrote:
Hmmmm Its possible it has become inaccessible but I hope not. On the plus side BH is such a massive labyrinthine U/G playground that its possible we just haven't got to it yet. On Saturday we got to 4 new areas we had not seen before and would have done more had we taken a rope. Ahh well... lots more juicy exploring 😉 😉

Yeh it is kinda vast. I've spent weeks in there and still get lost most times I visit! But then I do tend to wander without paying much attention to where I am 😉

I can remember the first time we visited Jug Vein, via the High Level, back in 1988.... It was a very long trip, we came out in the dark to find a police landrover waiting.... Apparently a gentleman from down near Birmingham had been around Brownleyhill and had apparently checked out all possible places we could be in, couldn't find us so had told the police that we might be lost underground!!! It was a long time ago, my memory seems to fail me as to who the gentleman was that alerted the authorities as to our possible disappearance!!!! 😉

John Lawson
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13 years ago

#12

When mine exploration began in the B.H.mine no one understood the Veille Montagne plan which was freely available from P.D.M.H.S.
Slowly it emerged that nearly all of the workings shown on it are in fact accessible, the only exception being on the Guddamgill Vein which is closed some two hundred metres or so beyond it's junction and even here we broke into a large stope above the B.H. Horse level
The Jug Vein connection had been blocked off at it's junction with B.H. Vein so the whole of this branch was unexplored until W.C.M.R. Members broke through this blockage.
So unless you exactly where you are on the plan the workings are very large and difficult to understand.

RJV
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13 years ago

#13

"John Lawson" wrote:

So unless you exactly where you are on the plan the workings are very large and difficult to understand.

Which makes it arguably the most interesting Nenthead mine to explore I suppose.

If exploring means crawling back and forth along the High Level for hours on end wondering where the hell the pitch down back down to Jug Vein's gone that is.... ::)

Captain Scarlet
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13 years ago

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"John Lawson" wrote:
Slowly it emerged that nearly all of the workings shown on it are in fact accessible, the only exception being on the Guddamgill Vein

Moss X-Vein?

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John Lawson
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13 years ago

#15

Even part of Moss Cross Vein was accessible though I have not checked it in recent times and as the entrance was on a nasty piece of ground it is possible that it might have fallen in.

Captain Scarlet
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13 years ago

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"John Lawson" wrote:
Even part of Moss Cross Vein was accessible though I have not checked it in recent times and as the entrance was on a nasty piece of ground it is possible that it might have fallen in.

The current situation is a very small area is accessible through the low arch off BH North Vein. This gives access to a rise but unfortunately it is blocked by collapsed very large (limestone) blocks. The Vein is also inaccessible from the High Level. The plans show a lot of ground to be had, but sadly no way in at present.

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christwigg
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13 years ago

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Yes, I think we sent Wayne through that low arch, and he didn't look too impressed when he came back.

Is the High Level blocked around the area of Tatters String ?
Seem to remember we came across a blockage there, but as we were looking for the pitch down to Jug Vein at the time and were in compeltely the wrong end of the mine I only came to that conclusion later.....

Captain Scarlet
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13 years ago

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"christwigg" wrote:
Yes, I think we sent Wayne through that low arch, and he didn't look too impressed when he came back.

Is the High Level blocked around the area of Tatters String ?

Correct. Shortly after the sumps down onto Ttters(Tatlers) string the high level is badly run in

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John Lawson
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13 years ago

#19

Continuing with the Moss Cross Vein theme, in the middle 50's Roughside Mine was reopened by a group of local miners to work this Vein in the Higher Sills.
Baryte was the mineral sought but when we entered it in the late 70's little of this mineral was in evidence and as far as I know nobody went down the open shaft at the end of the workings which may have connected to those which should have been accessed from Broomsberry Horse Level.
It is thought the operation resulted in the loss of over 20 grand.