RosieG
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17 years ago
Hi there,

I have been looking around the interweb for a decent map of Dinorwig Quarry but I couldn't find one. So I have started a google map one that is at:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=109915291015428156362.000454917b26c70160baa 

I have this grand plan that all of you who know Dinorwig can collaborate on this map and annotate/name all of the main features so that a) I know where is being talked about and b) so that there is one standardised mao with all the names etc on so people are't confused about exactly what incline etc is being talked about. Points of interest eg Australia mill could also be marked which would be easier than giving directions. What I have done so far is very rough and is best viewed in "Satellite".

If you know Dinorwig have a look and see what you think - at the moment only I can edit it but I would love to have some of you experts to collaborate and fill in all the blanks...

Cheers for reading this long post and let me know what you think,

Rosie


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JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
There is a good map in "Slates to Velinheli" by Douglas Carrington/Maid Marian Loco Fund. Be aware though there is a mistake with the upper inclines on "A" side.
JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
I am sure someone posted a map of Dinorwic on here, but I cannot find it!

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=109915291015428156362.000454917b26c70160baa 

I have made your link "clickable" ^^^
RosieG
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17 years ago
Thanks πŸ™‚ I thought it did it automatically...
JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
There are errors in your labelling of C inclines but difficult to describe! I will try.

Starting at the lake level, the two parallel inclines you show are both known as C1. There is another incline to NW of those (barely visible) that was the original C1 tends to be known as Old C1. Heading up you next have two separate inclines marked when in face they are 1. That is C2 again another (barely visible) incline to NW was Old C2. Going up again you have two inclines that merge at adjacent heads. That is C3 with Old C3 slightly to NW meeting at same point. They are both clearly visible.
JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
Now to the A side (upper).

Starting with the Mills level (where viewing platform and the 1925 mill are) the incline going up from there is A5 however, you have it going up one level too high. It only goes up to the level where the first sharp hairpin in the track is.

Above that you have shown several inclines which are not split/joined quite how you show them. The next incline upwards is A6. The first level up on that incline has a loco shed to NW marked as a building on your map. That is Level A6A Penrhydd Bach. A6 continues up a further four levels, A6B, A6C, A6D and A6T. you can clearly see the drumhouse on sat photo. There is a largish building shown on that level.

Going higher still, you have A7 incline, correctly shown by you as going up two levels, A7A and A7T. The first incline you have marked to SE of that is "Old A7" not sure what the small one further SE is.

Going higher still, the next incline you have marked as two separate inclines is one, A8, serving A8A and A8T.

There is yet another short incline just visible on sat photo to E of C8's head that goes up in a due E direction, that is A9, serving just one level, A9T.
JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
On to Upper C side!

C4 and C5 inclines are correct, then you go a bit wrong.

The one you have labelled as Tank Incline is C6. C6 is C7 (another trwnc incline). C7 is C8 (conventional incline).

The incline you have labelled C8 I am sure isn't an incline. However the incline you have marked E of that (heading NNE to SSE) is C9. Above that is known C10 incline (you haven't highlighted that) I am pretty certain that was never finished as there are no rail marks or signs of any head. Looking at how the lower portion of it is built round and almost over the head gear of C9 I think the intention was to amalgamate the new incline as an upper section of C9. This was discussed on a thread on here a few months back.

Going back down again to C1. when in use it was four parallel tracks photographs do exist of it in use. Possibly your two, far apart, lines could be moved closer. Or maybe just show one line? It was certainly always known as one incline, C1.
RosieG
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17 years ago
Wow! Thanks for putting in all that work for me! I will correct what I can... If you send me your email address and I can add you as a collaborator so that you can edit the map if you wanted.
Thanks again for all that time...

Rosie
JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
I have sent you a PM.

One anomaly about the lower C inclines was C2. It had four tracks on the lower section, but only two higher up. It had an additional two track drumhouse halfway up just for the tracks that went no higher. It was still all known as C2 though!
RosieG
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17 years ago
I've updated all the stuff you've mentioned πŸ™‚ Now justhave to go back a relabel all the C levells :smartass:
carnkie
17 years ago
Looks quite impressive in GE. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
just one very minor point, A9 was quite a short incline and I think you have the bottom of it extending to far westwards. It is a damned good project and well done.
JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
I have just uploaded a photo of the upper B area of the quarry incline system.

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It shows two inclines. One, near the top, just below the words "Learn More" is a completed trwnc incline the drumhouse is clearly visible. The second is at the bottom of the photo just above the words 2008 Google. I believe this second incline was never completed. There are signs that the drumhouse was never finished nor any rail fixings. However, there are two (incomplete) trwnc frames lying nearby.
RosieG
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17 years ago
Thankyou - I have added that... πŸ™‚
toadstone
17 years ago
You might like to see the OS take on Dinorwig.
http://www.kap.toadstone.com/kapmap/osmap.html 

The map is centred for my purposes but you can drag it over to Wales and zoom in. There is a limit to the number of people who can view at one time, so be patient if the server seems to drag its heels. Also the OS put a restriction on the number of tiles I'm allowed per day, so again if you get an out of limit message that's the reason why.

Looking at Dinorwig most of the names mentioned are there.

Rumour has it I'm about to take some holidays and I've got Dinorwig & Cwmorthin on my tour for KAP. Depending on time might just leg it down to sample some Cornish Ice Cream :-)) :thumbup:

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