Firstly a link to 'Slatesite' - http://www.llechicymru.info/index.english.htm , an interesting website with a fair few archive images as well as good historical articles.

I've hotlinked four images below for sake of interest: this does have an issue of borrowing someone else's bandwidth, but tbh I don't think the traffic levels will be a problem.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the copyright issues of duplicating the images here on AditNow? The original copyright in the images would expire on the death of the original photographer, or if that were unknown, 70 years after the photograph was taken. Therefore, these would be copyright-free, but there may be an issue with the fact that someone has scanned the images to upload them: does this re-instigate copyright?

Anyway: here are four pics, which I've not identified to give you the chance to guess (no, not you Grahami, they're far too easy for you!).

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The full gallery is at this http://www.llechicymru.info/MainGallery/index.english.htm 

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Vanoord

4 looks very much like Croesor to me.

Not much idea on the rest.

Is it Croesor?

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Vanoord wrote

Does anyone have any thoughts on the copyright issues of duplicating the images here on AditNow? The original copyright in the images would expire on the death of the original photographer, or if that were unknown, 70 years after the photograph was taken. Therefore, these would be copyright-free, but there may be an issue with the fact that someone has scanned the images to upload them: does this re-instigate copyright?

I contacted Gwynedd archive office a while back with regard to some postcards I bought off them years back, showing 19th century scenes. They reckoned that they still had copyright of the image and would require permission to upload them. There are lots of old photos of mines that seem to regularly crop up in various books, (the barracks assigned to Gwynfynydd, Frongoch.....) so where do the permissions come from for these?

Any answers?

Would definitely agree with viewer on 4, looks like Croesor, you can see the top of the incline, and the fan building.

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Yes indeed - the fourth one is Croesor 🙂

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1 *****

2 *****

3 *****

4 Croesor

Am i anywhere near???

[mod]Edited by Vanoord for being spot-on! I probably owe you a Mars Bar, as long you you promise you didn't cheat ;)[/mod]

Promise i didnt cheat! That wouldn't be fair!

😉

My understanding of reproduction rights is that it depends on where you obtained the image - if it is reproduced from one in the Gwynedd Archives collection either by them or someone else, then it is their copyright and you need their permission. If, however (and its a big if) you have access to an original (even if its the same as one held by the archives) then you can reproduce images of that subject to agreement with the owner etc, and Gwynedd Archives are not involved.

This is the case, for instance, with images from "Caban" - Gwynedd Archives certainly have copies, and even original negatives from this, so images produced from those are their copyright, but if you have access to an original then the image from that can be reproduced without reference to them.

I know Dave Sallery's site uses GA (Web) images with their permission, so as long as the source is stated and GA's permission is sought, I don't think there would be a problem... this does NOT mean that a photographic or photocopy image of an archive item can be scanned in and reproduced on the web, however, as that would be clearly a breach of the terms under which GA supply photographs or photocopies.

Grahami

Grahami

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We'll try a more difficult one then:

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******, that is tough! The angle of the rock would suggest Blaenau?
Couple of possible clues in there suggest Llechwedd below C floor :confused:

Barney - you're correct on your first assumption that the dip of the vein is similar to that you're seen in some Blaenau mines....

Any more guesses?

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Graham - that you for that: my suspicions were something along those lines. I suspect the hotlinking issue may be a little more of a grey area, so I'll remove the image hotlinks in a couple of days and replace them with plain html links so that the images can only be accessed directly.

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mmmm, i think i might have it then, the ladders i think give it away, if its not Llechwedd, it can only be one other place!
😉

It it could be only one other place, I might suggest I'm looking for a bit more accuracy 😉

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1 = Llechwedd
2 = Rhiwbach Tramway Incline Number 2 (between Maen Offeren and Votty)
3 = Votty
4 = Croesor

5 = Hollands Quarry 1850

and no, I didn't even look any up!

Incidentally, I can thoroughly recommend a visit (or several) to both Caernarfon and Dolgellau Record Offices. They contain a wealth of information about the mines, quarries, and their railways. The only trouble I have found is you go in there looking for one thing and in searching for that you find references to other interesting archive material and get side tracked far too easily!

Hear hear!

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The artist has taken quite a lot of licence here. At risk of putting my head on the block, and I know its from Gwynedd archives, but it looks like Seven Sisters cavern, Dudley.
RF

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Hear hear!

To put what I said in the earlier post in perspective (the vast amount of material available in the archives). On the link Vanoord posted there are a selection of some 120 photos, if I say that the Caernarfon Record Office has several hundred photos of just Dinorwic, plus plans, letters, and all kind of miscellaneous documents and books, you should gather it is a vast resource.

Is that a water leat or something similar in the chamber?

diolch!

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diolch!

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No offense meant towards Welsh speakers, in fact I have great respect for any of us who speak Welsh and understands these posts, but I only speak English and would prefer it if posts were in English- is "diolch" part of the question or an extra? I havn't a clue and can't be of any help. I'd imagine all Welsh speakers on here can also speak English, so LAP could we keep it all one language please?