simonrl
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18 years ago
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/7021788.stm 

CADW has won a bid to preserve a large coal tip near Wrexham at the former Bersham colliery.

As one of few remaining coal tips from the coalfield it must have heritage value, but I can't help but feel certain other sites contain items of greater historical interest.

IIRC this tip was also the site of a failed plan (some years back) to build a dry ski slope.
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Cat_Bones
18 years ago
This is the massive tip by the side of the A483 I presume?
grahami
18 years ago
Yes - the headgear and winding house (with it's electric winder)there is preserved. A quick hunt on Google will show up a number of references - the Shropshire Mines Trust was supposed to be doing things there, they had the (dismantled) Point of Ayr Colliery Engine there. Their web site hasn't been updated for a couple of years.

Graham
The map is the territory - especially in chain scale.
Cat_Bones
18 years ago
Hi Graham - Are you with the SCMC then (I've just noticed you're based in Telford as well..)?
grahami
18 years ago
No - my colleague at work here is though.

Graham
The map is the territory - especially in chain scale.
pennyjcjones
17 years ago
Don't let anyone dismantle it. Known in the family as Grandads Mountain. Grandad used to be a faceworker at Bersham. He told the kids he built it all himself.
Cat_Bones
17 years ago
He he, he was obviously a very hard-worker! :P
Moorebooks
17 years ago

Graham, - I need to set the record straight as clearly there is some misinformation about

The SMT / SCMC had an agreement with Wrexham Council to set up the Bersham Colliery Trust - the SCMC were joint partners from the start. The idea had been to encourage local suport, help them set up agreements, run joint open days then let them take over. A couple of ex miners took an interest but beyond that they simply didn't bother turning up on work days, open days or anything. Teams from Shropshire (including myself and then partner) spent several days cleaning and clearing rubbish to make the site safe and sort out plans for displays etc and as a result we were left running it.

I can also tell you that Adrian P worked solidly to get this going and was still working on site when most of us had given up.



We also had enough projects of our own in Shropshire and although we tried very hard to generate interest holding open days, local news items etc but the response was zero. As a result The Bersham Trust was reluctantly folded and the SCMC and SMT recieved the seed funds back.

For the record The point of Ayr Engine was brought to the site as a result of a long campaign by one of the interested miners and was on site when we started to get involved as we realised the importance of all this. Part of his very public campaign had been stop the Welsh engine being lost to the English, several other coal artefacts are also stored on the site as a result. He was quick enough to shout but very slow to do anything else.

Wrexham Council now have the control of the site and should be opening the builldings but if any one has a look at Minera nowadays ypu know how pathetic this will be. The council had also suggested the Trust also take on Minera which was worrying .
If anyone feels like it they would happily pass the keys on for you to run.

I hope that clarifies our involvement and helps recognise the graft that was put in and puts to bed any further negative comments about the Shropshire involvement.

Mike

Mike

grahami
17 years ago
I wasn't intending to upset anyone - merely pointing out that the part of the website which referred to Bersham (And which could be found by doing a search on Google at the time) had not been updated for a long time and therefore I could not say what was going on. :flowers:

Thankyou for putting the record straight.

The Point of Ayr Colliery winder was a beauty, and it was/is a shame that it was moved about so much. Whenevr things like that are moved about, more and more bits get lost, as well as the knowledge of how they fit back together again. The No.1 auxiliary capstan engine (ex-sinking engine) at Astley Green was eventually "lost" in such a fashion and the remains scrapped. AFAIK

Grahami


The map is the territory - especially in chain scale.
simonrl
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15 years ago
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-10915449 

"BBC News" wrote:

Firm wins appeal to clear Bersham tip in Wrexham

A company has won its appeal to remove an old coal tip which has become one of Wrexham's best known landmarks.

Bersham Glenside Limited hopes to start removing 6m tonnes of spoil from the Bersham Colliery tip within a few months, in a project which may take up to nine years.

Some local people have expressed disappointment the tip is to go although a museum could be established.

Cadw had previously highlighted its industrial heritage importance.

However, the Welsh Assembly Government granted permission, subject to conditions.

The mine closed in 1986, putting 300 miners out of work.


my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by
steve turbo
15 years ago
i thought the ski slope was on the gresford tip not bersham..

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