DylanW
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"'The' Miles" wrote:

"DylanW" wrote:

"JohnnearCfon" wrote:

I understand that RHD has been smarting by all the negative publicity he has received about this. I also understand (when asked by someone privately) that he is at a total loss as to what he has done wrong!

On a better note, I understand from GCC, planning, that CADW were due to make an inspection at Llechwedd yesterday (18/6/07).

There is the possiblity of some other good news too, unfortunately it was told to me in the strictest confidence. I will say more when something a bit more definate is known.



what exactly has he done thats wrong?
He 's not the only one who' s at a total loss on what has been done wrong

I guess your next move will be to stop us working foty pit



why would anyone want to stop you working the pit?

The authorities obviously see it wrong enough to issue a halt order pending further investigation. At least an outside mediator with some power is assessing the situation...



Because of the beloved tuxford arch?
A sibrydodd yn welw ei wedd, rhowch garrag las ar fy medd, o chwaral y Penrhyn, lle''r euthym yn blentyn i''r gwaith.
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18 years ago
naaa. Not much left of it, it's 99% destroyed anyway and until you uncovered it it was buried. It's not really possible to take something like that apart and move it into a museum. If the entire tuxford was still intact, it would have been fabulous and yes personally I'd have got quite upset to see someone smash it up.
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18 years ago
Me too, never been mind, but looking at the size of the headgear, it would prove to look very interesting, as well as a fabulous engeneering achivement, so yes destroying it would be a shame.
Kein geneis kanaf - Cain gnais canaf
Byt vndyd mwyhaf - byth onddyth moyav
Lliaws a bwyllaf - Líows o boylav
Ac a bryderaf - ac o boryddarav
Kyfarchaf y veird byt - covarcav yr vairth
Pryt nam dyweid - poryth na'm dowaith
Py gynheil y byt - Pa gonail y byth
Na syrch yn eissywyt - na soroc yn eishoyth
Neur byt bei syrchei - nour byth bai sorochai

JohnnearCfon
18 years ago
"DylanW" wrote:

"JohnnearCfon" wrote:

I understand that RHD has been smarting by all the negative publicity he has received about this. I also understand (when asked by someone privately) that he is at a total loss as to what he has done wrong!

On a better note, I understand from GCC, planning, that CADW were due to make an inspection at Llechwedd yesterday (18/6/07).

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what exactly has he done thats wrong?
He 's not the only one who' s at a total loss on what has been done wrong

I guess your next move will be to stop us working foty pit



To be quite frank DylanW, if you can't see what he did wrong by not either not preserving it where it was, preserving it elsewhere, or offering it to other organistations (such as WSM, Llanberis) then you really must be as dense as he obviously is!
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18 years ago
"DylanW" wrote:

"JohnnearCfon" wrote:

I understand that RHD has been smarting by all the negative publicity he has received about this. I also understand (when asked by someone privately) that he is at a total loss as to what he has done wrong!

On a better note, I understand from GCC, planning, that CADW were due to make an inspection at Llechwedd yesterday (18/6/07).

There is the possiblity of some other good news too, unfortunately it was told to me in the strictest confidence. I will say more when something a bit more definate is known.



what exactly has he done thats wrong?
He 's not the only one who' s at a total loss on what has been done wrong

I guess your next move will be to stop us working foty pit



Erm, well that's gonna be kind of hard, as you own it. No not stopping production, just a little preservation. If you can't preserve the structures, which is understandible, if your quarrying there, then put the valuable artifacts to a better extent of preservation, i.e. selling or giving them to Honister, or more probably the Welsh slate museum.
Kein geneis kanaf - Cain gnais canaf
Byt vndyd mwyhaf - byth onddyth moyav
Lliaws a bwyllaf - Líows o boylav
Ac a bryderaf - ac o boryddarav
Kyfarchaf y veird byt - covarcav yr vairth
Pryt nam dyweid - poryth na'm dowaith
Py gynheil y byt - Pa gonail y byth
Na syrch yn eissywyt - na soroc yn eishoyth
Neur byt bei syrchei - nour byth bai sorochai

DylanW
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18 years ago
wel, I don't own it! (yet)!

Yet again, the company owns floor 5, well atleast i think they do! seeing what gets writen here though im not sure!

on the point of what s been done wrong, nothing was done wrong. they wernt listed (at the time atleast).
A sibrydodd yn welw ei wedd, rhowch garrag las ar fy medd, o chwaral y Penrhyn, lle''r euthym yn blentyn i''r gwaith.
Miles
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18 years ago
"DylanW" wrote:

wel, I don't own it! (yet)!

Yet again, the company owns floor 5, well atleast i think they do! seeing what gets writen here though im not sure!

on the point of what s been done wrong, nothing was done wrong. they wernt listed (at the time atleast).



They do own floor 5 and no they've not done anything illigal, but something being wrong and being illigal are not always the same thing. The drumhouse wasn't listed but I would think only because it slipped through the net - I suspect it would have been had cadw seen it.

What's done is done now anyway. I hope Greeves continue profitable slate production for many years to come but destroying our country's history needlessly is overstepping the mark in my book, and people like me get upset :guns:
JohnnearCfon
18 years ago
Update:-

My "Spy in the Sky" informs me that one of the buildings has now had a temporary covering put over the roof in the shape of a tarpaulin. He thinks it is on Floor 5, so presumably is the workshop that they started un roofing.
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18 years ago
Thanks John, your continuing input on this is really appreciated.
my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by
jagman
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18 years ago
"JohnnearCfon" wrote:

Update:-

My "Spy in the Sky" informs me that one of the buildings has now had a temporary covering put over the roof in the shape of a tarpaulin. He thinks it is on Floor 5, so presumably is the workshop that they started un roofing.



Part of the workshop building that houses the still live rotary convertor gear.
They put the tarp over at the same time they were removing the slate, probably cause it has a wopping great 3 phase supply in it feeding live equipment...... :lol:
DylanW
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18 years ago
Not for long!
A sibrydodd yn welw ei wedd, rhowch garrag las ar fy medd, o chwaral y Penrhyn, lle''r euthym yn blentyn i''r gwaith.
JohnnearCfon
18 years ago
"DylanW" wrote:

Not for long!



What's not for long?
JohnnearCfon
17 years ago
A couple of days ago I received the latest Gwynedd Industrial History Society newsletter. In it there is a section titled Llechwedd Quarry written, I believe, by GIHS chairman Dr Dafydd Gwyn.

"LLECHWEDD QUARRY

The stories about Llechwedd quarry continue to circulate - the demolition of the winding house was as 'distressing IA news' in the Autumn 2007 Industrial Archaelogy News, very inaccurately." The article then goes onto another matter.

The last GIHS newsletter had similar comments (haven't got it to hand) basically saying Llechwedd had done nothing wrong. This seems rather a strange thing for a local IA group (or at least it's chairman) to say. Okay, no one said it was illegal, after all it wasn't listed, but as for it not being wrong, well......
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