I read on M.E. that the floor 5 drumhouse was destroyed on friday last, with all the bits going into the skip. Yet again it seems that the management dont give a flying fook about Welsh industrial heritage, as long as the dumb idiots keep paying to ride around on the tram, thats all that matters.
I would not pay these idiots to look at their crappy little 'show mine' :curse:

thats just stupid really. The whole idea of preserving a mine is that you actually preserve it, and don't make small parts appear preserved... fools - cee this is what I love about Honister, they actually can work a show mine without having to turn the hardware into scrap metal. Go around Honister, and you'll see complete wagons and winches on many of the floors now, and with all the track still in place. at llechedd, most of the rails have been turned to scrap, and those little bits left are there to support dummy waggons, the ones they've spared for the tourists' sake...

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I am afraid I have nothing but contempt for the attitude of Llechwedd management. (and that's me being VERY polite).
They have very rare and valuable items in their so called museum which are just crumbling to dust (especially the two overhead locos). They have fairly recently had one of the very early Wingrove Rogers BE locos completely renovated (I think by a college). In the process most of the platework was replaced with new so it now has lost all the character it had before. I sincerely hope the two overhead locos are not allowed to deteriorate any further and then be treated in this manner. They should be conserved as they are not rebuilt.
The Spooner rail bending wagon I noticed a few months ago had been dismantled and bits left around. More recently it had disappeared completely, I wonder what the fate of that was?
They have also "cleared up" the area at the far end of the display area. Amongst the "junk" was the remains of a wooden framed FR flat wagon. I used to think it was a wooden slate wagon, but closer examination just before it disappeared revealed it was a flat wagon. Again, I wonder what the fate of that was?
How about a picket line? I am not joking!

seems to me that those electric locos have been out there since I can remember.... look at this:
http://www.penmorfa.com/Slate/gallery3.htm 

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A couple of years ago i photographed an electric motor, and a crane, both in reasonable condition at the back of the tourist area. Earlier this year both items had been buried and damaged with a load of junk thrown on top!
Am i correct in believing that some group had heard about Llechwedds policy of destruction and managed to get some sort of preservation order on some of the remaining buildings?
Who would have an interest in kicking ass, Wales' equivelant of English heritage maybe?

I was instumental in getting most of the buildings preserved at Coed-y-parc (Penrhyn) shortly before McAlpines proposed to demolish them. Having read earlier about Llechwedd's recent action, I was going to start the wheels in motion tomorrow. Will be better still if it has already been done.

If it has already had any preservation orders applied, and they are in breach of this, it is I believe, the local council planning dept who should be contacted in the first instance. Although contacting CADW too may be worthwhile. Perhaps if any one else knows more details about any possible preservation order(s) they could contact GCC and CADW themselves ASAP.

Would definitely say go for it John. If you can do anything to prevent wanton destruction of irreplacable bits of our industrial heritage then there will be a lot of people very grateful to you.

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Just a quick update as I have to go out.

I have contacted GCC at Dolgellau, and the buildings preservation officer at Caernarfon.

They are on the case.

Will give more info later

Pretty annoying about Penrhyn, they've only kept two water ba;ances (wow) and just demolished all the rest, including all the mills etc... 😞

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Sterling work John!

Any chance of posting a phone number for the relevant people to aknowledge our protests?

Hi All,

I was asked by the person Dolgellau to ascertain from my associate the type of temporary (6 months) blanket preservation order that was used to protect Coed-y-Parc.

This info has just been passed to him. I took the opportunity to advise him of the request for his contact info. He asked for this not to be posted. I have however, given him both this and Mine Explorer URLs and he is going to view these.

Subsequent to this telephone conversation, I read with horror the comment made on ME about the imminent destruction of the adjacent mill. I straight away rung him back to advise him of this.

In between speaking to him first thing this morning and now he had started various procedures to contact Llechwedd about what is going on.

I will continue to post any developments here.

Guess Llechwedd can't be bothered about compared to the state of Penrhyn. To think - McAlpines could have had their own Llanberis slate museum. Hearing this - I sencearly hope that the Rhosydd scheme doesn't go ahead! 😞

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http://www.darkplaces.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=77364#77364 

I have cross refered this thread on Darkplaces, and likewise here, so everyone can see both discussions as they evolve

The destruction of the big steam incline head (known as the Robey, or Inclin Bon) is absolutely shocking, there was no need for that! The huge gears, in the very least, could have been saved.

All the mills on that floor are scheduled to be destoryed before the end of the week, if they are not already, and the many historic machines and artifacts within scrapped.

Given the fact that they are trying to destory these as fast as they can before anyone can compain or notice, does'nt help the situation.

When was the last time someone checked??

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Thank you John :)

I wonder if there's any benefit in alerting the local media?

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I wonder if there's any benefit in alerting the local media?

I did wonder the same. Would want to be armed with all the relevant facts first though.

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If I lived nearby, I would be round there with a camcorder.

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Hi,

Thanks for that suggestion Vanoord, I hadn't given that a thought! Well the one of the two brain cells was busy talking to GCC, and the other one was asleep.

I have contacted C & D Herald, and have spoken to one of their reporters just now.

Can any one QUCKLY give me any more info on the buildings that have gone/are going? For instance when was the Drumhouse built, when was it converted to electricity? BTW I think the other building referrred to is the workshops, not a mill.

John

John, i think the legendary 'Grahami' should have the answers. Anybody have his contact details? Miles?