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Can anyone tell me where the majorety of the flooded chambers are, i.e. ones which will need boating.
And - what parts still remain open? 🙂
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18 years ago
Rhosydd is flooded to floor 9 level - as you've seen if you've walked in the #9 adit. Everyting to the Eastern side is in awful condition, or largely collapsed, whilst you can get a reasonable distance along floor 9 in the Eastern direction it won't take you anywhere.

On the Western side, the first flooded chamber you will come to is either 9A or 9B, sorry can't remember exactly. It's this one anyway:

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Rhosydd-Slate-Mine-21-05-2006-Image-001/[/img]

Not crossed it, and if you did it wouldn't take you anywhere much, the Western workings on floor 9 only extend as far as 9D - see Barney's plan.

All the 'interesting' boating is actually in Croesor, and you'll have done a couple of fairly committing descents and bridge crossings to reach them - and from the Croesor side rather than Rhosydd*.

* Although there's nothing to stop anyone doing the CRTT in reverse the idea of ascending two longish pitches sonuds a lot harder than descending them...
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I think I know where the counterbalanced incline is, not far from the Croesor connection, near the "G" chambers.
On mine-explorer I saw a pc of a wagon, though this was taken in the 70s, and might no longer be accessible. If so, can anyone tell me where it might be?
Thanls for info on flooding simonrl!
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18 years ago
Can you post a link to the mine-explorer picture? Might be able to tell you when I've seen it, ta.
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Here:
http://www.mine-explorer.co.uk/view_picture.asp?id=5662  😉
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JohnnearCfon
18 years ago
Isn't that the wagon standing on the few yards of track left at the far end of Adit 9? Where there is a set of points and the sheave.
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18 years ago
Given that the same poster's other Rhosydd photo is of the 5/9 incline that would make sense. But, I honestly can't remember seeing it* - although that might be because by the time the floor 9 landing of the 5/9 incline has been reached we've always been dashing for daylight and glad to still be alive 😉

* Which isn't to say it isn't there of course...
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I will defenatly look next time I'm in wales, which at the same time I'll or rarther: we'll get a chance with Conglog and Wrysgan?

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Been looking on Mine-explorer - and there's an idea to try and get into the Eastern workings, the best part of which has been sealed off since 1900.
Has anyone got any ideas/updates/chat on this?

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17 years ago
Hmmm, yes, talked about this with Miles and Vanoord a good while back, we never got around to doing anything about it over the summer.

The idea was to ab a shaft and/or descending into the eastern twll down to floor 4.

You can get so far east off the number 9 adit, but it's all in a very poor state, and doesn't bode well for the condition of the higher floors. However it would be fun to look.

Heard a muttering from somebody about a fresh collapse at Rhosydd as well. Any truth in that?
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"simonrl" wrote:

Hmmm, yes, talked about this with Miles and Vanoord a good while back, we never got around to doing anything about it over the summer.

The idea was to ab a shaft and/or descending into the eastern twll down to floor 4.

You can get so far east off the number 9 adit, but it's all in a very poor state, and doesn't bode well for the condition of the higher floors. However it would be fun to look.

Heard a muttering from somebody about a fresh collapse at Rhosydd as well. Any truth in that?



Hi, thanks for the info!
I've read the collapse happened about five years ago (according to ME). That area seems to change it's collapse history quite often by the sound of things.
http://www.mine-explorer.co.uk/bbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=410 

The shaft you talked about.... is it thought to lead into the eastern workings??

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17 years ago
Read that thread now, thanks.

I'm not 100% certain regarding the shaft, when we originally talked about it (before both these sites got forums IIRC) the easiest approach seemed to be to investigate the eastern twll.

If it's accessible though it's possible people have been before.
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"simonrl" wrote:

Read that thread now, thanks.

I'm not 100% certain regarding the shaft, when we originally talked about it (before both these sites got forums IIRC) the easiest approach seemed to be to investigate the eastern twll.

If it's accessible though it's possible people have been before.



cheers
If they had been before they must have kept it quiet... Hmmm Eastern Twll - doesn't sound like a very secure place... of course if we had the money/access - it'd be easier to just use a bulldozer... getting it beyond the no9 adit might be a bit tricky though... :lol:



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I'll do it.
What was the question again?
😉

Seriously though, if its new ground I wouldn't be adverse to taking a plunge
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"jagman" wrote:

I'll do it.
What was the question again?
😉

Seriously though, if its new ground I wouldn't be adverse to taking a plunge


You've got a point - that's why I'm more keen on accessing it not via the east twll. Is anyone aware of any chambers in the mine, that could be used to access the 'lost section of mine'. Looking at the map there are several which can't be too badyl blocked, so clearing a way through one of them might ba an idea. The question is.. 'which one'....


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Have kind of looked up the chambers off the tunnel leading E from the number 9 adit, but they're all very badly collapsed.

I'd guess that you'd need to go up a few floors to access any better ground.

Who's up for an exploratory trip then 😉
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17 years ago
I'm up for a trip! How about that adit that's bricked up with water spouting out?
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"merddinemrys" wrote:

I'm up for a trip! How about that adit that's bricked up with water spouting out?



I would go - but I have my own slate mines to attend to ::)
I would go with you nexy year definatly - but I don't think you should wait until then. Where's the bricked up adit?
Does anyone know of any ways using floor four?

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17 years ago
We let down a video camera down one of the shafts leading down to floor 4 adit a few years ago. There were a couple of dead sheep down there which had fallen down. There was some water there, probebly waist high. But I don't think you can access east twll thru it.
We also tried to acces east twll tunnels by the falls, but it seemed imposible. The only way I would think there might be possible to access might be from the surface collapse perhaps. Or by doing some digging/clearing inside the mine But we never tried accesing after the fall a few years ago. But had intended to do so.
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"hymac580c" wrote:

We let down a video camera down one of the shafts leading down to floor 4 adit a few years ago. There were a couple of dead sheep down there which had fallen down. There was some water there, probebly waist high. But I don't think you can access east twll thru it.
We also tried to acces east twll tunnels by the falls, but it seemed imposible. The only way I would think there might be possible to access might be from the surface collapse perhaps. Or by doing some digging/clearing inside the mine But we never tried accesing after the fall a few years ago. But had intended to do so.



Id have thought digging inside the mine as a good option. However, I guess it's hard to tell which chambers are collapsed worse than others. Also - are there any possible underwater connections that aren't collapsed?

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