derrickman
15 years ago
this was apparently shown at the Cornwall Festival... whatever that might be....



''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
JohnnearCfon
15 years ago
"derrickman" wrote:

this was apparently shown at the Cornwall Festival... whatever that might be.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUEBZMBp9Rs&feature=related 



mikebee62
15 years ago
Having worked in and been laid off from the Cornish mines, didnt get a lot of time to go skateboarding , Too busy working at anything to pay the rent!!!!. But I did get time for mine exploration!!.

Not sure what else to say about that utube clip!!
'Of cause its safe, just dont touch anything !!'
derrickman
15 years ago
strikes and soot, dear oh dearie me...
''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
Tezarchaeon
15 years ago
I remember the Cornish coal miner's strikes very well, terrible times, I still find it hard to believe that the government forced the local councils to erase all trace of the great Camborne coalfields that served the port of Barripper. Thank goodness we have well paid skateboarding jobs down here now to prevent such things happening again.
Phil Ford
15 years ago
Cornish Coal ?
derrickman
15 years ago
yes, doesn't stick to the bath like that messy tin stuff :blink:

the most depressing thing is that someone probably got public money to produce that. Paul Whitehouses' 'brilliant!!!' character would fit right in...

There is another one not so far away from it on youtube called 'tin line' which starts out so-so but descends in to deeply cringe-worthy territory in the second half, it's worth finding just so you know such things are possible
''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
staffordshirechina
15 years ago
On your advice, I have just watched the Tin Line clip.
I thought it quite humorous. I think that from when the Crofty MD says 'we are going to use local labour' the film then takes the p*ss rather well.
Sadly in most areas that is what you find nowadays amongst the upcoming workforce.
Yes, the final bit was naff to older ears.
The most scary part of all was that at the end it credited Lottery funding!

Les
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15 years ago
"derrickman" wrote:

the most depressing thing is that someone probably got public money to produce that. Paul Whitehouses' 'brilliant!!!' character would fit right in...



No the worst bit is that having had public money to have his mate hold a camera while he writes on walls and skateboards around the place talking about coal and soot... is that he ends up being 'spotted' by a 'talent' scout, gets on Good Moron with Richard and Trudy (or whatever it is), then to reality TV and ends up earning an annual salary that would open a small mine... Welcome to the UK :curse:
my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by
derrickman
15 years ago
true.. 'upcoming workforce' does increasingly appear to be an oxymoron, like 'military intelligence' or 'Microsoft works'

it was the 'Cornish rap' at the end that really curled my toes up.....
''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
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15 years ago
You have to laugh at things like this, even if they do focus on the fact that youth unemployment is high on account of many of those youths being unemployable......
Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!
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15 years ago
Broken PC Good-think education system fails students.

History is irrelevant in sec school. Primary stuff is probably of too much for their little minds, even though it's not their fault.

Pool isn't so bad, but Camborne seems to have the highest staff turnover of any school in the Westcountry. For whatever reason, it appears that the staff can't hack it. (Probably due to weak management and the constraints of a PC irrelevant and wide of the mark curriculum). A lot of teachers don't understand the importance of links between subjects and THE LOCAL AREA AND IT'S HISTORY. There are opportunities for links to be made continually to extend learning, whilst boosting an understanding of where your area has come from, what it did and why it's great. For Camborne, this is especially relevant and a serious resource for learning.

I suspect that the staff haven't got a clue about the area, apart from Crofty was some sort of mine which is now closed (and we really need it to be turned into a sustainable windpark or something), the parents probably don't really communicate their own knowledge.

You have to cringe at some of the stuff the kids have come up with, but the sentiment is there, they do have a sense of belonging, it's just they are at odds with the detail due to being failed by education being administered out of context.

Moan rant..... :lol:
derrickman
15 years ago
really, the history of the Cornish mining industry doesn't make much sense outside the wider history of the 18th and 19th centuries.

the great copper mines were based on the demand for brass which resulted from the Industrial Revolution of the 18th century, they are as much a part of that as Ironbridge and Coalbrookdale.

The expansion of the South Wales coalfields made it possible to construct and power the pumping and winding engines, and smelt the ore; the highly specific geography of the Cornish peninsula and Bristol Channel made it possible to transport the material in bulk with the transport systems of the day ( basically by short, downhill overland haulage and then by sea ).

the fortuitous discovery of tin below the copper, allied to the great expansion of the use of pewter for various applications ( such as tableware ) in the first half of the 19th century, resulted in a resurgence of operations in those areas placed to exploit it. This was sustained by the almost universal adoption of tin-plate for storage of materials of almost every description in the later 19th and early 20th century.

This lead to the refinement of the Cornish techniques of total extraction of narrow-lode, hard-rock orebodies which in turn produced the great diaspora of the 19th century to places such as South Africa, the US and South America. These techniques weren't new, being associated with the lead-mining industries of Derbyshire and Cleveland, the silver-mining industry in the Harz mountains, and lother areas; but the Cornish industry became world leaders, for a while.

History of the world, right there.



''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
stuey
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15 years ago
Yep, valid point. However the best place to start is outside your own door.
Dolcoathguy
15 years ago
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I suspect that the staff haven't got a clue about the area, apart from Crofty was some sort of mine which is now closed (and we really need it to be turned into a sustainable windpark or something), the parents probably don't really communicate their own knowledge.



When I was at Camborne School, we spent a whole year doing projects on Tin mining and even got to visit Crofty (above ground only). No shortage of Mining savvy teachers then as Mr Bromley's (he of the geology books) wife taught me.
At the moment mining related school projects and visits take place in the Clay district.
Hopefully when Crofty are fully up and running, school trips and projects will return (as long as the Safety police permit it).

Is it safe to come out of the bunker yet?
derrickman
15 years ago
"stuey" wrote:

Yep, valid point. However the best place to start is outside your own door.



well, yes. You could start on Carn Brea so that you can see the North Coast and across to Crofty headframe. Then Pool and the preserved engines.

Projects on the Industrial Revolution and world trade follow, whoops that's a bit un-PC isn't it; you might have to admit that, for example, the West African slave trade was heavily involved with Arab traders working across from the East Coast when they weren't shipping slaves up to the Ottomans instead.

perish the thought, you might have to admit that the Royal Navy did so much to stamp out the slave trade in the early 19th century.

''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
spitfire
15 years ago
"Tezarchaeon" wrote:

I remember the Cornish coal miner's strikes very well, terrible times, I still find it hard to believe that the government forced the local councils to erase all trace of the great Camborne coalfields that served the port of Barripper. Thank goodness we have well paid skateboarding jobs down here now to prevent such things happening again.


I'm surprised at you makeing that statement as you should know better.
Everyone knows that all of the COAL was shipped from Tolskithy Harbour. That port was far cheaper to work as they had tugs that were fired by gorse and heather, please check your facts next time :smartass:
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15 years ago
I have'nt laughed so much since I last went to County Hall in Truro! :thumbsup:
derrickman
15 years ago
I hate to think what revelations are about to follow.... last time I went to Truro, it was to sign on, riding an untaxed, uninsured Panther big single which I had bought from Williams the breakers in Scorrier...
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15 years ago
"derrickman" wrote:

I hate to think what revelations are about to follow.... last time I went to Truro, it was to sign on, riding an untaxed, uninsured Panther big single which I had bought from Williams the breakers in Scorrier...


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