Knocker
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15 years ago
There was quite a lengthy article on Crofty in the WMN today, making for interesting reading: -

http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/news/man-kick-start-South-Crofty/article-1937413-detail/article.html 
derrickman
15 years ago
interesting stuff.

so, by implication, there is no current budget or programme for resuming pumping, and development hasn't advanced; and won't until the surface drilling results are known.

anyone?
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spitfire
15 years ago
"derrickman" wrote:

interesting stuff.

so, by implication, there is no current budget or programme for resuming pumping, and development hasn't advanced; and won't until the surface drilling results are known.

anyone?



I think that's about as true as it gets.
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tomh
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15 years ago
Looked like nothing more than hype to me!
stuey
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15 years ago
"to drill from the surface and to process the ore underground at a number of locations in a 20-mile radius of Crofty"

This is bloody interesting. They sound a bit "forward thinking" rather than just pumping the thing out and restarting stoping the bits they were and development......

I'd like to have faith in them and hope they can pull it off.

Needless to say, it will come out at some point.
derrickman
15 years ago
I found the original restarting by BaseResult very difficult to understand in purely technical terms. I could never understand the balance between development of the Tuckingmill Incline, and proven reserves. This all makes a great deal more sense, and it's interesting in that it implies that dewatering the lower levels is not a primary target.

I suspect the term '20 miles radius around Crofty' should be regarded as journalistic licence. Crofty owns a wide range of old setts and you could probably find some parts of its holdings that far away.

It may, for all I know, include parts of the Carnon Valley and United Downs. There are reserves known at Carnon Valley, after all. Wheal Jane and Mount Wellington didn't close because they were worked out, but because their system of work was unviable. Concord was always suspected of being a tax dodge of some kind. Pendarves simply couldn't work the prevailing conditions at a profit.

I would also assume that the general topography and geology of the St Just area precludes the sort of thing described.

the Wide Formation is nothing new. The problem was always to define it in sufficient terms to mine it by available methods.

I can't comment on the whole polymetallic concept, because I don't have the information.

however on the general principle that it is better to do something rather than nothing, good luck to 'em. They are paying proper wages doing state-of-the-art work, in pursuit of an activity paid for, out of their own pockets, by people who are in the business of being right about this sort of thing.

There are seriously experienced people down there, working for a lot less than they could earn elsewhere ( at least in some cases ) because they believe in what they are doing; there are much worse ways of spending your time.


''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
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15 years ago
"derrickman" wrote:

However on the general principle that it is better to do something rather than nothing, good luck to 'em. They are paying proper wages doing state-of-the-art work, in pursuit of an activity paid for, out of their own pockets, by people who are in the business of being right about this sort of thing.

There are seriously experienced people down there, working for a lot less than they could earn elsewhere ( at least in some cases ) because they believe in what they are doing; there are much worse ways of spending your time.



Well said, couldn't agree more & good luck to em :thumbup:
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Dolcoathguy
15 years ago
"to drill from the surface and to process the ore underground at a number of locations in a 20-mile radius of Crofty"

Sounds like a slight change of plan - I am guessing the results of the test drilling have indicated tunnelling from where they are to any significant body of ore maybe difficult in some directions due to flooded old workings, water etc. making surface drilling, where they own the rights and can access the land, a better option (which I presume it will be on many old workings anyway).

I am sure they have had their fair share of problems and hope they getting closer to being successful.


Is it safe to come out of the bunker yet?
derrickman
15 years ago
this all fits together.

The Wide Formation has long been known to be variable - cf Trounson's comments about "not is it payable - but WHERE is it payable"

It's interesting that the article pretty well says that the new Ops Manager has been brought in to provide a fresh view, and he seems to have significantly changed the overall approach.

WUM have done a great deal of detailed work on mapping existing abandoned workings in the past year or so, and I'd hardly be surprised that driving relatively shallow levels in all directions isn't feasible.

the article would also appear to imply that the plan to relocate the main milling activities to a new structure at Tuckingmill is also sidelined.

interesting stuff.


''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
stuey
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15 years ago
Just out of curiosity, who owns the rights to:-

1. Peevor/North Downs.
2. Killifreth/Busy
3. Jane/Welly/United
4. Concord (even though I gather Concord was crap)
5. Flat Lode (grenville and uny)

I've heard that Jane wouldn't be economical to mine unless there is a restart of operations on a large scale in that area. Oddly enough, I was chatting to an old hand about the levels in Consols/United/Squire/Tingtang caused by Jane pumping and it appears that Jane pretty much pumped out the whole of Gwennap. United was pretty much dry.

Economically, I can't see the pound getting on it's feet any time soon, which is ideal time for getting things ready to run when the rest of the world does first.
Ty Gwyn
15 years ago
Never had canteen ladies like them in the Pits in South Wales.
justin
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15 years ago
It's time i went over to crofty and sunk a shaft of my own 😉
ICLOK
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15 years ago
I think I wan't to become a miner....
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Creeper!!!!!
RJV
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15 years ago
"ICLOK" wrote:

I think I wan't to become a miner....



Nice idea but I suspect I'd never get any work done for thinking about the knockers.
Knocker
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15 years ago
http://www.thisiswesternmorningnews.co.uk/news/Hairdryer-revolutionises-Crofty-s-mineral-analysis/article-1956740-detail/article.html 

Heres the latest installment, which is probably more enlightening. To me it demonstrates a concerted attempt to prepare a definitive ore reserve plan and statement, which will enable the mine to operate on a far steadier foundation than has been attempted in the past. It will also assist in attracting investment.
Tezarchaeon
15 years ago
Well it certainly seems like this man has decided to give the project a well needed kick up the backside.

It has never ceased to amaze me quite how much potential Crofty has, once they finally get going and start extraction there will be some very exciting times ahead.

Let's hope that any other new mines in Cornwall don't have quite such a hard time starting up.... though it is doubtful that other mines will have an easier ride the fact that Crofty is in the middle of the viper's nest has made things all the more problematic.
derrickman
15 years ago
I would say Crofty is probably the easiest of the possible sites. Pool is hardly an AONB, after all, and I greatly doubt that it is home to bats, newts or Lesser Tufted Titwort at this stage.

I find it hard to envisage any other potential sites with the same possible accessible resources.

I visited Crofty when I was at the last stages of Combe Down. Interesting stuff. Agricola showed me the sample analyser, very useful piece of kit.
''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
stuey
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15 years ago
I will avoid the tempting opportunity to be coarse, but what on earth were those girls doing?

The health and safety man would have probably had a fit.

(I agree that the one in silver appears to be keeping a pair of baby hamsters warm)
Daz
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15 years ago
That's not the only thing she would keep warm. 😞
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Strangely Brown
15 years ago
Damn it, the secret of why we vist all these mines and quarries has been revealed! I would mention the lack of hard hats but someone might take this the wrong way 😉
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