grahami
15 years ago
As an ex Lancastrian in Exile in Shropshire, I don't know if this is any use:
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Grahami
The map is the territory - especially in chain scale.
lancashireheeler
15 years ago
If you look where Peel mill is there is a lane just after it . The field this mine is on is to the right of this lane , Rock view . Thanks for this map very interesting.
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15 years ago
I've poked my nose into a few disused collieries and they are dangerous places.
That said, if it was on my land I'd have knocked the wall down ages ago.
Not teaching granny to suck eggs or anything but if you do poke a hole in it you need to excersise a lot of caution.

Knock a couple of bricks out and leave it for a couple of weeks.
After that it would be well worth a look and I'm sure the odd one of us would happily take a look into the hole for you 🙂

Infact, I'll go further and say I will if nobody else volunteers!

If you want somebody to go and have a look in it then it is possible 🙂
lancashireheeler
15 years ago

Right I've got me torch and am going in there now and will knock a few bricks out if I can. Might have to wait for my other half to come home if its too solid. I have been wanting to know whats behind the wall for ages but only just getting round to it and haven't a clue about how to go about it safely. Your more than welcome to come and have a look in there , I joined this group in hope someone would want to. How would I find out how old this is ?
jagman
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15 years ago
"lancashireheeler" wrote:


Right I've got me torch and am going in there now and will knock a few bricks out if I can. Might have to wait for my other half to come home if its too solid. I have been wanting to know whats behind the wall for ages but only just getting round to it and haven't a clue about how to go about it safely. Your more than welcome to come and have a look in there , I joined this group in hope someone would want to. How would I find out how old this is ?



Okay thats cool
But in the nicest possible way, do not be tempted to take a wander in there!
At the risk of sounding like I am preaching, disused coal mines can kill you damned quickly.
Just shine a torch in and see if it goes anywhere.
Give it a week or two to ventilate and I'll happily come up and have a look in, I'll bring the appropriate gear to do so reasonably safely.

Genrally once you take a look at the place there will be some evidence to suggest its age.

Anybody else game for a look? Its pretty rare oppurtunity to take a look in coal.....
AR
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15 years ago
Don't smoke while you're knocking the bricks out either 😉
Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!
Mr Mike
15 years ago
This is only up the road from me, so I would be up for a poke around.

I know someone who knows a lot of info on the Lancs coal field, will give them a call.
Mr Mike www.mineexplorer.org.uk
Mr Mike
15 years ago
Mt contact will try and pin point the mine, but in the mean time...

"Having been sealed off for a long time the oxygen  will be really low, they may bash a hole in the stopping at waist height, then climb in and the blackdamp is lying on the ground on the other side, deadly unless you have a gas detector / alarm"

Poke a hole at floor level as well, a good size if possible.
Mr Mike www.mineexplorer.org.uk
Ty Gwyn
15 years ago
Grahami,
Out of intertest,what date is the map you illustrated?

As 1/2 ml up the road,it shows Disused Colliery,this entrance on the owners field could possibly be the Return of the disused mine,or again a new venture at a later date,beings no Adit shown.

Any idea of a NGR for this site.?
lancashireheeler
15 years ago

Just posted a copy of an old sketch drawing I was given when I moved in here by a previous owner. I think this shows this is infact its own mine. I have added it to my album
Ty Gwyn
15 years ago
If the Mine is that close to the big house,i doubt very much its a Colliery,the Old Coal owners would`nt have wanted the Dust around thier homes.
lancashireheeler
15 years ago

The land didn't belong to the big house , the land and house are on two seperate titles . I understand the point your making though but even so there it is inan old sketch and as you can see from my other photos , there is an entrance to back the old sketch up. If its not a coal mine then what is it ?
lancashireheeler
15 years ago

I believe the house (Actually 2 houses) was built for two brothers both were suppose to be quarry owners . Peel mill is just at the bottom so i'd say it was a very dirty place back in the day . .
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15 years ago
"lancashireheeler" wrote:


The land didn't belong to the big house , the land and house are on two seperate titles . I understand the point your making though but even so there it is inan old sketch and as you can see from my other photos , there is an entrance to back the old sketch up. If its not a coal mine then what is it ?



There is no reason for it not to be coal.
There is no reason that it has to be either! In the absence of records the only real way to tell is take a look.
There is coal in the vicinity which makes it quite likely that it was a colliery
lancashireheeler
15 years ago

Well all I have to go on is the facts of what I can see and as already stated its a fine entrance if its to nothing !!! If you look at the photo in my album the one that shows the water going into the tub you can seejust in front of this tub an old wheel pin or whatever , so proof that there were some kind of trollies , there is a wheel somewhere to but I can find it now. Today I also found a very old iron box really old cast iron and erroded but what surprised me is there are like electrics and like inside of a radio. Don't know what that is and if in fact it has anything to do with this or has just been thrown in there.
Morlock
15 years ago
"lancashireheeler" wrote:

If its not a coal mine then what is it ?



I still have lingering thoughts that it may be related to the reservoir above and the reservoir at the same level as the house.

Edit: Interesting sketch, seems to be a furnace of some kind at the bottom right.
lancashireheeler
15 years ago

Don't think so, Ihave a HUGE culvert running down my lane that is for the res, and I mean a big one, someone I have spoken to has actually walked this. Also if this is not a mine what is that sketch all about ?
Morlock
15 years ago
"lancashireheeler" wrote:

Also if this is not a mine what is that sketch all about ?



We may know once you've knocked a few bricks out. 😉
lancashireheeler
15 years ago
LOL
Have to tell you I whimped it today, I was scared enough but to think about starting hammering and banging in there just finished me off . Anyway this is the reason I came to this forum to find some nice people that would dare to do what I won't !!! Ihve talents but dark underground hammering isn't one of them LOL ... 😮
Morlock
15 years ago
Does the apparent direction of the tunnel head in the direction of any identifiable surface feature on the posted map?
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