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Wormster
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14 years ago

#21

Rich,

Opps Daily Wail shouter here, as you say its horses for courses, I like my singing rock and will stick with it!!

The only thing I will say is: Set your harness and "jangalies" up and then take it off like a pair of kecks (ie: don't undo the central mallion, just drop it on the deck and step out of it) that way you achieve 2 things: less faff time at the beginning of a trip, and you know where everything is!!

Every once in a while (I do this about 4 times a year, even if I've not used the rig) take the whole lot apart (preferably at home) and give everything the old "Mk 1 human eyeball" inspection, checking the wear on your descender, the teeth on your ascenders, knots on your cowstails (all 3 of them!! - yes I see my hand ascender as an extra cowstail) and the mallion and harness itself. Replace any worn/failing componets.

Better to regret something you have done - than to regret something you have not done.

christwigg
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14 years ago

#22

Wondered how long it would be before this became a "my harness is better than your harness" bun fight.

If you're happy with what you have stick with it, if something nags at you every time you use it, change it.

I've been so much happier with my Superavanti since I ditched the Torse chest strap and got a Serpentine.

RichardLevett
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14 years ago

#23

Beautifully put Chris, one bad thing about the Singing Rock is that it sometimes makes my bum look big 😉

RJV
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14 years ago

#24

"RichardLevett" wrote:
Beautifully put Chris, one bad thing about the Singing Rock is that it sometimes makes my bum look big 😉

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Wormster
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14 years ago

#25

Nah does not make my bum look big:

[photo]Dark-Places-Big-Bash-Drws-y-Coed-Trip-07-08-2007-Image-001[/photo]

or here:

[photo]Croesor-Rhosydd-Through-Trip-27-10-2006-Image-007[/photo]

nerr nerr!!

Better to regret something you have done - than to regret something you have not done.

Moorebooks
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14 years ago

#26

Well said the debate has rather run off the rails.

The school of thought would be false economy using a secondhand harness if you have no idea of its providence. We all understand it is personal risk however remember that the CRO may have to rescue a seriously injured person if it all goes wrong and that affects other

It would be interesting to check Cave rescue records if harness failure has ever figured?

Mike

simonrl
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14 years ago

#27

"Wormster" wrote:
Nah does not make my bum look big:

[photo]Dark-Places-Big-Bash-Drws-y-Coed-Trip-07-08-2007-Image-001[/photo]

That was just around the corner from "dead sheep floating in flooded stope" part of Drws y Coed wasn't it? *shudder*

my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by

Wormster
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14 years ago

#28

"simonrl" wrote:

That was just around the corner from "dead sheep floating in flooded stope" part of Drws y Coed wasn't it? *shudder*

Aye that's the badger!! what a fun day that was.

But back on track, buy a new harness (of your choice) secondhand kit may well be very dogy and may fail on you at an inopportune moment!!

Better to regret something you have done - than to regret something you have not done.

Wormster
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14 years ago

#29

"Moorebooks" wrote:

It would be interesting to check Cave rescue records if harness failure has ever figured?

Mike

Just had a quick scan here: http://www.cro.org.uk/incidents_2002 a few cavers loosing control during abseils, but as far as I can see no equipment failure!
(I suggest we split this off as a separate topic if we continue this line of investigation though!!)

Better to regret something you have done - than to regret something you have not done.

hymac580c
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14 years ago

#30

On estimate I abseil about 4 times a year so what I do is use my full industrial harness that I use at work.
It is given an annual safety check and it supports my shoulders as well as my waist and legs.

Bellach dim ond swn y gwynt yn chwibian, lle bu gynt yr engan ar cynion yn tincian.

Strangely Brown
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14 years ago

#31

I'm surprised there aren't more people using industrial harnesses, I would have looked at using one if I didn't already have my rock climbing one (now got a shoulder harness to support a chest jammer and stop me falling out if I have the misfortune to end up upside down).

Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.

Wormster
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14 years ago

#32

"owaincbrown" wrote:
I'm surprised there aren't more people using industrial harnesses, I would have looked at using one if I didn't already have my rock climbing one (now got a shoulder harness to support a chest jammer and stop me falling out if I have the misfortune to end up upside down).

AHHH suspension truama http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_trauma nasty stuff almost as bad as "pink puffers and blue bloaters" :offtopic: I know but worth googleing!! :smartass:

Better to regret something you have done - than to regret something you have not done.

Strangely Brown
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14 years ago

#33

"Wormster" wrote:

"owaincbrown" wrote:
I'm surprised there aren't more people using industrial harnesses, I would have looked at using one if I didn't already have my rock climbing one (now got a shoulder harness to support a chest jammer and stop me falling out if I have the misfortune to end up upside down).

AHHH suspension truama http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_trauma nasty stuff almost as bad as "pink puffers and blue bloaters" :offtopic: I know but worth googleing!! :smartass:

Suspension trauma sounds very bad but infinitely better than going splat head first 😮

This has just made me think of something..I'll add it to a suitable thread.

Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.

hymac580c
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14 years ago

#34

A few times I have thought of what would happen to someone abseiling with a waist/leg harness if they happen to turn up side down for some reason.
Is there a possibility of falling out of that type of harness??

Bellach dim ond swn y gwynt yn chwibian, lle bu gynt yr engan ar cynion yn tincian.

Strangely Brown
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14 years ago

#35

"hymac580c" wrote:
A few times I have thought of what would happen to someone abseiling with a waist/leg harness if they happen to turn up side down for some reason.
Is there a possibility of falling out of that type of harness??

It depends on which way the hip:waist ratio is :lol:. Most rock climbers are on the slender side. I've hung upside down from my climbing harness OK but under controlled conditions, but it's not something I wish to try by accident, it didn't take much to convince me to get a shoulder strap as well.

Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.

NewStuff
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14 years ago

#36

I was intentionally descending headfirst the other day... I use a DMM Brenin, as does Earthworm Jim, who was also doing it.

Searching for the ever elusive Underground Titty Bar.

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