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badman
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#281

I was sorry to see the destruction of the Butterley works [now compleated].I was apprentice Electician there ,when I left school in 1968. But what about the Cromford canal tunnel, which runs under the site?.I hope it will not be filled in 😞

shovel_6
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15 years ago

#282

Not on my watch, as they say. Amber Valley Council assure the Friends of the Cromford Canal that the tunnel and its conecting shafts will be protected.
Pat Morriss
Chair, Friends of the Cromford Canal

ICLOK
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15 years ago

#283

And also that every effort will be made to deal with the site properly and that they are in communication with the owners over the site.
Shovel_6 will call you tonight!

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badman
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15 years ago

#284

I hope that is true but I heard that when the houses ,on the higher level ,were being built ,the old loading shaft from Butterley foundry to the canal beneath ,was filled in.If this is true, then what is to stop the tunnel going the same way[ using elf and safety as the reason?

neonpike
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15 years ago

#285

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tina.cordon/Butterley%20Tunnel%20Survey.pdf this is a tour of the canal tunnel . i get the impression that the shafts were already partially backfilled at this point

shovel_6
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15 years ago

#286

Shafts were exposed that we did not know existed. These were photographed and capped, but not back filled. One of the reasons we're so keen to do a proper survey is that we may not know where all the features are so we don't want them blundering about breaking out floor and yard slabs at random.
Any old plans, photographs, knowledge etc would be most welcome.

jschwa1
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15 years ago

#287

Based on conversations between Shovel6, ICLOCK and myself, we are each aware of different shafts and underground features. There will undoubtedly be more, but as Shovel6 says, this all reinforces the requirement for any 'breaking' and construction work to be done on the site with care.
When the foundry was being demolished in 1986, one of the shafts to the canal was rediscovered when an excavator partially fell through the cap of the shaft!

ICLOK
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15 years ago

#288

I am currently working with a 3rd party to list down every thing known about the remaining current features on the site which I will then be share with the Cromford canal guys. AVBC seem to want suggestions re whats noteworthy on site so we shall be making sure they know.

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AR
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15 years ago

#289

The archaeological report for the previous planning app advised that subsurface investigations would be required before developing the site further. Get someone in with GPR, I say....

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ICLOK
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15 years ago

#290

Think there will be a queue for those trips... I want to know the extent of the coal workings under Carr Wood, by all accounts there was a boat level. :thumbup:

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shovel_6
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15 years ago

#291

Given the likely depth of the tunnel and guessing the depth of any shaft caps and what I can guess about the subsoil type, Ground Penetrating Radar might not show much. I have alrady suggested what ever geo-physical search techniques that might be used should be. Midland Railway plans from the 1917 canal widehole shotening are good for what lies beneath but tying those up to the surface features is pretty difficult.

J4M35
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15 years ago

#292

Now that DOES sound good, how deep were the workings if you know?

tater24
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15 years ago

#293

How come the photos accompanying the text in the forum have gone? just wondering.whats happening on the site now then? all gone quiet.

ICLOK
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15 years ago

#294

Lets just say its all going on but not something to air in open forum... 😉 if you know what I mean!!! 😉 But lets just say its better news in general... tater24 you and me have an appointment to keep .... gis a bell when you free!

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jschwa1
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15 years ago

#295

Just watched the short BBC video related to the demolition and saw that Pete Travis was featured. Does anyone have any contact with him these days?

Pete did much of the building maintenance on the site (certainly when I managed him) and undoubtedly will be able to contribute more useful background information on the site/canal tunnel and general history.

badman
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15 years ago

#296

on the point of the tunnel,there is(or was) a short history of the tunnel,entitled " The Cromfor Canal, Portal to Portal "by Des Greenwood(is this the same Des Greenwood who was an Electrician at Butterley in the 1970/80s?).The booklet shows the route of the tunnel from under, what was the machine shop,to a point near to the coach road .The publication date was 2003 so might still be in print.