Bodger
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8 years ago
Hi,
I have been a member of this forum for a while and although I knew I had a Welsh mining ancestor I did not know much about them.
I just discovered a bit more about him, he worked as a greaser on the coal screens at Ystradgynlais which was as I understand it at Gwynfryn, Brecon Road. I was wondering if anyone could give me some more information about this job and also tell me where the mine was, I know he was not technically a miner but was I assume working on the surface? He was killed on the 3rd May 1935 when his clothes got caught in the screen and ... well I will leave the rest of the gruesome description out but you can guess the rest. Any information would be appreciated! Thanks!
ptpeaty
8 years ago
If you don't get any response to your query here, try the Welsh Collieries site at
http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/ 

There is a forum there for all things associated with Welsh coal mines. If you've not seen it before, it is a fascinating resource.
Morlock
8 years ago
Bottom of the Brecon list at welsh coal mines site. Suspect the coal may have been washed a little further North, next to the railway.
Ty Gwyn
8 years ago
If you look at the google map on the site John,where Neath road joins Station road,on that bend there used to be what looked like a loading point up on the bank coming down to the road,either shutes or screens,the slag tip was visible either side,this was over 40yrs back before any road improvements in this area.
Graigfawr
8 years ago
"Bodger" wrote:

Hi,
... he worked as a greaser on the coal screens at Ystradgynlais ... I was wondering if anyone could give me some more information about this job ... I know he was not technically a miner but was I assume working on the surface? He was killed on the 3rd May 1935 when his clothes got caught in the screen ...



Many industries employed men to lubricate machinery of all sorts by adding oil and grease as necessary - they were often (but not always) termed 'greasers'. Unskilled work but necessary to keep machinery running and to minimise wear. Yes, it was surface work, not underground work.

In the inter-war years, coal screens, especially in the anthracite coalfield, were as much concerned with classifying the coal into the sizes demanded by the markets (peas, beans, nuts, cobbles, etc) as with removing waste stone and other non-coal material. Various size classifiying machinery was used; the simplest were large revolving drums made of steel mesh or steel sheet punched with holes - smaller pieces of coal fell through and larger pieces travelled further along until they reached holes of the right size to fall through; large coal emerged at the far end. The inter-war years saw a growth in markets for smaller sizes of coals (e.g. for automatically-fed boilers) so coal was often mechanically crushed at the start of the classifying process.

Crushing and moving coal produces lots of dust so part of a greaser's job was likely to be shovelling up the rapid build-up of dust and also spillages, as well as keeping vulnerable parts of the machinery (bearings, motors, etc.) moderately clean. Screens buildings, although often partly open-sided, were usually very dusty and, before modern standards of machinery guarding, potentially dangerous places to work - lots of moving machinery and poor visibility.

The local newspapers will have reported his death and also the resulting inquest. Runs of local newspapers are usually available at larger libraries and at county record offices. If the coroner's inquest records survive, they will most likely be held by the county record office.
Morlock
8 years ago
"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

If you look at the google map on the site John,where Neath road joins Station road,on that bend there used to be what looked like a loading point up on the bank coming down to the road,either shutes or screens,the slag tip was visible either side,this was over 40yrs back before any road improvements in this area.



I think my firsts forays to that area were on a BSA motorcycle around 1967ish, used to visit the silica mines, happy days.
Trouble is, there was so much industrial stuff around in those days that I only vaguely remember most of it!
I can also remember rummaging about at Blaengwrach Colliery after closure around 1983 and several old drifts at Hirwaun, winders still in situ. Sadly, all opencasted now.

Ty Gwyn
8 years ago
"Morlock" wrote:

"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

If you look at the google map on the site John,where Neath road joins Station road,on that bend there used to be what looked like a loading point up on the bank coming down to the road,either shutes or screens,the slag tip was visible either side,this was over 40yrs back before any road improvements in this area.



I think my firsts forays to that area were on a BSA motorcycle around 1967ish, used to visit the silica mines, happy days.
Trouble is, there was so much industrial stuff around in those days that I only vaguely most of it!
I can also remember rummaging about at Blaengwrach Colliery after closure around 1983 and several old drifts at Hirwaun, winders still in situ. Sadly, all opencasted now.



Strangely enough,my first travelling on that road was 1970 on a Triumph 500cc,like you say all the old industrial stuff was still all about in them days,plus we still had working mines,who ever would have thought it would disappear.
Morlock
8 years ago
A few years back whilst chatting to a guy at the start of the opencast operation he told me a story about the site clearance and a bulldozer unearthing a superb power house tiled floor. A few conservatories worth of tiles.;D
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