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thorpey
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16 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Uyyr61FLk

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Nut deep in water!

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Vanoord
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16 years ago

Good lord, that sounds rough!

Hello again darkness, my old friend...

Wormster
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16 years ago

Sounds like there's air getting into the injectors, the loco's motor is "hunting".

Better to regret something you have done - than to regret something you have not done.

hymac580c
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16 years ago

By the sound of that diesel engine I would say it has a blockage somewhere in the fuel supply, faulty fuel lift pump, lose coupling on the injector pump or a faulty govener.
Nice to see it all the same, will have to take a ride on the railway this year.

Bellach dim ond swn y gwynt yn chwibian, lle bu gynt yr engan ar cynion yn tincian.

skimble
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16 years ago

For more information, photos and videos of yesterday's activities have a look at the "Latest News" page of the Welsh Highland Railway Project site, http://whr.bangor.ac.uk/whlatest.htm

Vanoord
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16 years ago

Ta Skimble :)

"electrical fault in its throttle control" apparently...

Hello again darkness, my old friend...

Ben Fisher
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16 years ago

"Vanoord" wrote:
Ta Skimble :)

"electrical fault in its throttle control" apparently...

More specifically, in the electronics of the "throttle proportionate control"; I simplified it on the webpage as I had no idea what that meant...! :confused: But reportedly it was being fixed earlier today.

ICLOK
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16 years ago

Not sure if its exactly the same but if the loco has electronic injection / firing as against a normal governer there is an electronic Notch in the locos traction control that equates to the drivers notch position on the controller in the cab.... just like on my 3800hp machines....sometimes they get scrambled and hunt up and down, we get exactly the same problems... just a bit bigger!!! :thumbsup:

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Creeper!!!!!

hymac580c
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16 years ago

As a matter of interest which engine does this loco have, and what fuel injection type? Has anyone got any photos of the engine itself?

Bellach dim ond swn y gwynt yn chwibian, lle bu gynt yr engan ar cynion yn tincian.

ICLOK
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16 years ago

#10

Must admit i'd like to see the specs because if it's electronic fuel control it must be pretty up to date....

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Creeper!!!!!

JohnnearCfon
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16 years ago

#11

FR Wiki says:-

"An 0-6-0DH, this locomotive was built at Boston Lodge using parts bought from Baguley-Drewry following that company's liquidation, although much was built new. Experience with Harlech Castle had suggested that a similar locomotive would have potential as a passenger locomotive and the "in house" designed bodywork reflect the links between the two locos. Entering service in 1995, the loco sees regular service in the passenger fleet, and is fitted with advanced computer controls which enables the use of the Push Pull system. This allows the engine to remain at the top end of the train on "down" services, being driven from a cab in observation Carriage 111."

Doesn't mention the engine type though. I think that article is incorrect. There were 3 identical locos constructed (or partly constructed) by Baguley-Drewry. One was complete, and is on the Bredgar line, one is Criccieth Castle, and the third is on VoR. I believe that the Bredgar line bought all three from Baguley, kept the one that had been completed, and sold the other two (partially built) ones on.

thorpey
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16 years ago

#12

I think it is a caterpilr engine ( according to a friend )

Nut deep in water!

Vanoord
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16 years ago

#13

"Ben Fisher" wrote:
More specifically, in the electronics of the "throttle proportionate control"; I simplified it on the webpage as I had no idea what that meant...! :confused: But reportedly it was being fixed earlier today.

The only 'proportionate' control I've come across has been something which takes a mechanical input (ie a lever) and coverts it to electricity for transmission to the 'business end' before converting it back to a mechanical output (to control the flow of hydraulic fluid).

In this instance, I'd suspect that we're talking a very basic "fly by wire" system in that the throttle lever electronically controls a servo which operates a (probably) mechanical fuel pump?

Hello again darkness, my old friend...

hymac580c
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16 years ago

#14

I thought there would not be any electronic fuel fuel control system on that loco. I think it would be much better if the put a cable or rod throttle control on it as it is not far from the cab to the engine and of course much more reliable.
There was something going on this Monday morning in Porthmadog about 7.20 am as there was quite a crowd by the bridge and many people with cameras ready.

Bellach dim ond swn y gwynt yn chwibian, lle bu gynt yr engan ar cynion yn tincian.

JohnnearCfon
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16 years ago

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"hymac580c" wrote:
I thought there would not be any electronic fuel fuel control system on that loco. I think it would be much better if the put a cable or rod throttle control on it as it is not far from the cab to the engine and of course much more reliable.
There was something going on this Monday morning in Porthmadog about 7.20 am as there was quite a crowd by the bridge and many people with cameras ready.

Thre must be some kind of electronic speed control as it can be remotely controlled from a driving trailer coach.

The newly restored Garrett, no 87, crossed over the High Street yesterday morning hauling coach no 2090 destined for Dinas.

A video is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Y7_LsY41A&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eisengard%2Eco%2Euk%2Findex%2Ehtm&feature=player_embedded

ICLOK
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16 years ago

#16

Wow TDM fitted Narrow gauge.... there's a thought!!!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Creeper!!!!!

JohnnearCfon
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16 years ago

#17

Hmm, TDM, I wonder if that's what they mean by is fitted with advanced computer controls which enables the use of the Push Pull system? Somehow I have visions of a ZX81 or Spectrum hidden away.

(TDM = Time division multiplex in case anyone is interested).

ICLOK
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16 years ago

#18

Now I know where all the TDM units off my locos vanished to..... love the Speccy Idea.... :lol:

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Creeper!!!!!

simonrl
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16 years ago

#19

Open to the public now according to the Beeb.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7988093.stm

Quote:

More than 70 years after the last passenger train ran to Beddgelert in Gwynedd, steam engines are once again chugging along the line.

my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by

skimble
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16 years ago

#20

"simonrl" wrote:
Open to the public now according to the Beeb.

Open as far as Beddgelert, but not all the way to Port quite yet.
The trip is highly recommended but, having been one of the crew on the [busy] first public train from Caernarfon yesterday, I would say that, wouldn't I 🙂