Van Miller
5 years ago
History of Van mine near Llanidloes. Was somebody searching for information? My grandfather worked there until it closed.
royfellows
5 years ago
Welcome to aditnow.
If you have any old photos or documents it would be really appreciated by many if you could be so kind as to scan and upload them.
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crickleymal
5 years ago
My grandfather used to drive the railway engine up to the mine. The locals nicknamed it the Fan Donkey.
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John Mason
5 years ago
The one Central Wales mine I'd have loved to see underground - and I think that goes for all of us!
royfellows
5 years ago
"John Mason" wrote:

The one Central Wales mine I'd have loved to see underground - and I think that goes for all of us!



Right on!
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Van Miller
5 years ago
Old photos of Van Mine near Llanidloes. Thank you for your kind response, but I’m also on the hunt for photos. I will ask my extended family if they have any they can dig out. I fear they won’t be of much interest to you mine explorers, though. Any that have been passed down are likely to be above ground family- focused. The Van mine has a place in our family folklore, but for my mother and sisters it was something of a place of doom, because when they were still teenagers, it collapsed economically, evidently taking any family wealth with it! Having done some potholing in my younger days, I find your mine exploration fascinating. If you have a chance to explore the Van Mine I should be delighted to hear about it.
royfellows
5 years ago
My understanding is that the adit lead to extensive workings but was blocked off in the 1970s after some kids went in there and got lost. Soon after the property above built a swimming pool over it, maybe using the outflow as a water supply.

There is a similar situation at Carbis Water in Cornwall.
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crickleymal
5 years ago
I vaguely remember the portal of the adit being there in the late 80s but not going anywhere.
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Van Miller
5 years ago
Who owns it nowadays? Is it in private ownership or local authority, or ? In the Nineties I met someone nearby who was researching for a book about the mine. He or someone else said they were trying to turn it into a local tourist attraction, but possibly just the above ground workings, buildings, etc?
John Mason
5 years ago
In the early 1990s I worked there with Simon Hughes, excavating the old dressing floors - there was quite a lot of stuff found under the jig-tailings too. That was prior to the reclamation programme. I also found a WW1 spigot-bomb in excellent nick that I kept in the digger cab for about a fortnight, rattling around whilst I was digging, thinking it was a large pestle for pulverising assay samples! The Hereford boys came for it once we realised what it was and that it was perfectly live - eek! But I managed NOT to find the Home Guard stash of white phosphorous shells. A driver on the reclamation project itself hit the first one which detonated in his bucket, and the Army located dozens more subsequently!
Llanigraham
5 years ago
"Van Miller" wrote:

Old photos of Van Mine near Llanidloes. Thank you for your kind response, but I’m also on the hunt for photos. I will ask my extended family if they have any they can dig out. I fear they won’t be of much interest to you mine explorers, though. Any that have been passed down are likely to be above ground family- focused. The Van mine has a place in our family folklore, but for my mother and sisters it was something of a place of doom, because when they were still teenagers, it collapsed economically, evidently taking any family wealth with it! Having done some potholing in my younger days, I find your mine exploration fascinating. If you have a chance to explore the Van Mine I should be delighted to hear about it.



As a local I would be very interested to see old photos of the surface workings, as they do appear to be rare. I'm sure Llanidloes Museum would also be interested.

"Van Miller" wrote:

Who owns it nowadays? Is it in private ownership or local authority, or ? In the Nineties I met someone nearby who was researching for a book about the mine. He or someone else said they were trying to turn it into a local tourist attraction, but possibly just the above ground workings, buildings, etc?



Most of it now appears to be under private ownership although I think the Pool and the old railway loading area is owned by the Council.
There was a book written about the mine sometime ago, and other publications:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Van-Mines-Nigel-Chapman/dp/0901450618 
royfellows
5 years ago
I have to admit to a load of old photographs in digital form which I cannot really upload without permission from Simon Hughes who was kind enough to give them to me. I dont see Simon these days and am unsure of how he is as he has health problems.

I dont know whether you ever get to see him John?

I have one somewhere which may or may not be Van mine which shows a truck on rails on a stand being used as a fend off from a waterwheel power train.
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Llanigraham
5 years ago
"royfellows" wrote:

I have to admit to a load of old photographs in digital form which I cannot really upload without permission from Simon Hughes who was kind enough to give them to me. I dont see Simon these days and am unsure of how he is as he has health problems.

I dont know whether you ever get to see him John?

I have one somewhere which may or may not be Van mine which shows a truck on rails on a stand being used as a fend off from a waterwheel power train.



I'd be interested to see that one, Roy.
royfellows
5 years ago
I had quite a conversation with Simon about it at the time, he expressed the opinion that it was Van, and I have no reason to disagree. It is impossible to identify any background features that would place it however.
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5 years ago
Has anyone ever been into the workings themselves?
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royfellows
5 years ago
I have just dug out my copy of British Mining no 81 by Nigel Chapman. It seems that most of the photos I had off Simon are in the book. Just a heads up on this.
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John Mason
5 years ago
"Blober" wrote:

Has anyone ever been into the workings themselves?



Not in living memory IIRC. The mine flooded to adit after closure. Everything down there is presumably as it was left.
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5 years ago
I used to live a few miles from Van and used to knock around there for my own interest and for professional reasons. I did have access to various consultant's documents (including reports from Simon Hughes). These may be on record with Powys CC. There was a lot of remediation carried out, as at the time the Afon Cerist was one of the most polluted watercourses in Mid Wales. It was just mine spoil, the area had been used as a tip for other wastes. IIRC there was a story that the wastes from Aberystwyth's gasworks had been dumped there. The main adit is on private land and is inaccessible, with a culvert carrying the discharge. The large portal that everyone assumes is the entrance is in fact the loading bay for the rail link. Part of the mine consists of the 'Van flats', a lode of about 15 degrees? There was talk that they had back filled this area as they worked.
royfellows
5 years ago
Ha, yes the loading bay. I had an argument with a local about it years ago who insisted it was "the way into the mine", regardless of the ore passes.

I searched for any trace at all of the adit without success, the tramway piers should logically point to it. I suspect it was all bulldozed in.
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Lizzie81
5 years ago
Hi, I think it was me asking a long time ago. I live there and I have explored the area quite extensively since asking and uploaded a pic or two.

I have just ordered the book that Llani Graham mentions and I would be interested in making some contact to ask about the history if that is OK. Also there are some workings in the woods if anyone has any info on what they are and where they lead please?

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