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ragl
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11 years ago

Interesting developments at Hemerdon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-27754535

Cheers

Alan

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Drillbilly.
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11 years ago

Are they allowed to chuck their water in the river and if not, have they costed it out for when they ****** off from their tungsten-devoid hole after Wolf have headed for the horizon?

Will their adit become blocked up and then unblocked and fill Plymouth Sound up with toxic orange gunge?

How many jobs will it actually create? Beyond the burger van at the end of the track...

Dolcoathguy
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11 years ago

From a biased viewpoint - several workers laid off from other open cast operations in the region have found offers of employment here.

Don't they have to submit detailed plans for mineral planning (are the ROMPs and current applications available?)

Found this:
http://www.southhams.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=6237&p=0
I suspect there are other plans on the same site related to Hemerdon.

But any plan / application is only as good as those who check it I guess!

Is it safe to come out of the bunker yet?

J25GTi
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11 years ago

"Drillbilly." wrote:
Are they allowed to chuck their water in the river and if not, have they costed it out for when they ****** off from their tungsten-devoid hole after Wolf have headed for the horizon?

Will their adit become blocked up and then unblocked and fill Plymouth Sound up with toxic orange gunge?

How many jobs will it actually create? Beyond the burger van at the end of the track...

Quite a few I imagine. I know at least 4 people working there now...

Knocker
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11 years ago

Drillbilly, you've gone awfully negative on this one. The company have had to place a serious amount of money (Around £30 Million) into an environmental bond, that cannot be touched for any purpose of there post mining remediation. If they were to dissapear the money is there for the government to do the work.

There will be lots of local jobs and the filter down is already happening, the firm I work for (You know who it is), has nearly £2 Million of work to do for the mine, Holman Wilfley at Pool has been awarded the contract to supply the shaking tables for the mine.

This ones all good news as far as I can see!

Aditaddict
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11 years ago

Surely any new mine in a country built on them is good news ?
and as for polution , nobody seems to give a flying **** over the millions of tons of hydrochloric acid and other shite the frackers are about to pump into our water table ;D

John Lawson
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11 years ago

Looking at this operation from afar! I cannot see any problems, assuming the water board check the operation throughout.
Far too frequently, either they do not understand mine drainage, or have looked the other way on abandonment.

As far as. I am aware HCl is not a fracking ingredient, and in any case of all the acids, it is probably the most natural, since it helps the digestion of protein in the stomach.

Knocker
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11 years ago

The processing is nearly 100% gravity in the processing plant, so theres no nasty chemicals being used, its about as inert as it gets. I would be amazed if AMW was an issue, the water I would imagine will be pretty much pH Neutral.

wheldale
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11 years ago

"Aditaddict" wrote:
Surely any new mine in a country built on them is good news ?
and as for polution , nobody seems to give a flying **** over the millions of tons of hydrochloric acid and other shite the frackers are about to pump into our water table ;D

I wouldn't worry about hydrochloric acid in fracking. It's only makes up 0.1% of the fracking solution. By volume more is used in car wash solutions at the local car wash, no one bats an eyelid at that.

royfellows
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11 years ago

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"wheldale" wrote:

I wouldn't worry about hydrochloric acid in fracking. It's only makes up 0.1% of the fracking solution.

10,000 parts per million
SHOCK!
0.1%
THATS NOTHING
Same thing but put different ways, now where else do we see that.

My avatar is a poor likeness.

Knocker
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11 years ago

#11

Going back 40 years ago in Hayle there, there was the Associated Octel plant, where they extracted Bromine from sea water using massive quantities of concentrated Sulphuric acid (Which they used to manufacture on site). They ised to discharge the effluent, which was mainly Sulphuric acid into Copperhouse Pool, for it to be released on low tide. I dread to think what the pH of the pool was, but apparently everyone used to go swimming in it!

somersetminer
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11 years ago

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dont quite see what Drillbillys problem with Wolf is, the Aussies are 'the boys' as far as mining is concerned now, no longer the preserve of the Cornish (I can get away with saying that as I'm no Cornishman!), they have modern mining (with all the bs that comes with it) down to an art (unlike the Chinese etc, which is basically slavery with another name). Besides, foreign ownership is no different to any other big business venture in the uk right now. (You dont have to like it but thats the way it is at the moment, search me but if you want to know why, a good start would be asking former Cadburys board members). At least they'll be employing local boys!

Knocker
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11 years ago

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Got to agree with that, with regards to who are the boys mind, the board and senior management have a distinctly British feel, for many, this seems to be coming home.

The MD is RSM trained, another 2 members of the board are British, including Nick Clarke (CSM).

The operations team apart from the financial officer and project manager are all British.

Aditaddict
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11 years ago

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"somersetminer" wrote:
dont quite see what Drillbillys problem with Wolf is, the Aussies are 'the boys' as far as mining is concerned now, no longer the preserve of the Cornish (I can get away with saying that as I'm no Cornishman!), they have modern mining (with all the bs that comes with it) down to an art (unlike the Chinese etc, which is basically slavery with another name). Besides, foreign ownership is no different to any other big business venture in the uk right now. (You dont have to like it but thats the way it is at the moment, search me but if you want to know why, a good start would be asking former Cadburys board members). At least they'll be employing local boys!

That seems to have been the problem for a number of years now our governments seem frightened to death to let British firms do anything other than push buttons,
Anything that is with an element of risk involved "leave it to Johnny foreigners , they can pick up the claims when something goes wrong"

Health and safety , dont you just love it ?

What a pathetic country we have become

RJV
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11 years ago

#15

"And today's cliche has been brought to you by ukip..."

Half of the FTSE100 companies operate in the extractive industries. Not a proper test of Britishness obviously but probably as good as any you'll get for companies at that level.

Are our health & safety regulatons the reason those companies aren't mining in Britain?

What's wrong with health & safety as a general principle anyway? Industrial diseases, amputations, orphans etc, surely all to be avoided as much as possible?

Knocker
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11 years ago

#16

I can't for the life of me see what Health an Safety has to do with it? The Australians have exactly the same culture towards it as we do. Cornwall still has a large mining industry with China Clay, is that industry hampered by health and safety?

There are three main reasons why mining struggles to kick off in this country: -

1, Planning rules, if it wasn't for the fact Hemerdon had planning permission, I'm not sure anyone would have taken it on.

2. Environmental regulations - while I agree that massive envirinmental damage must be prevented, I think we take it a bit far in this country.

3. Public opinion - i.e The Nimbys

wheal
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11 years ago

#17

I used to swim in it regularly. Still ere.;D

poke around long enough and you'll find something..

lozz
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11 years ago

#18

Does anyone know what mining/extraction methods will be used at Hemerdon? Is the country rock granite?

Lozz.

Tocsin
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11 years ago

#19

Well said RJV, I'm in construction where injury rates have been driven down to previously unimaginable levels by decent legislation that forces everyone to price it in properly. This has driven prices up, obviously, but that's no bad thing compared to the outcome in my opinion.

I don't like the look of that woodwork.

Knocker
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11 years ago

#20

Hemerdon is pretty much entirely granite, there is a mix of what is being termed "Soft Granite", which I can only imagine is Kaolinised granite, bearing in mind the proximity to Lee Moor China Clay pit and Hard granite, which is how the mine has ended up with such a simple processing system, which is closer to Crofty's mill design than Wheal Jane's.

The first stage is a densse media seperation, followed by conventional gravity means. I would imagine there is also a froth flotation circuit for recovering the fines.