Simon M
  • Simon M
  • 50.2% (Neutral)
  • Newbie Topic Starter
11 years ago
UK pledges to stop funding overseas coal power stations

http://www.theengineer.co.uk/energy-and-environment/news/uk-pledges-to-stop-funding-overseas-coal-power-stations/1017532.article 

The UK is to end state funding for new coal-fired power stations in developing countries except in ‘rare’ cases, the government has announced.


Government money donated to poorer countries through multilateral development banks (MDBs) can currently be invested in coal plants, but the UK is now to join the US in ending this practice in most circumstances.

The Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) was unable to provide details of how much UK money is spent in this way, but research from the US Natural Resources Defence Council suggested the figure was over $500m (£310m) since 2007.

Speaking at this week’s UN Climate Change Conference in Warsaw, energy secretary Ed Davey said the practice conflicted with the UK’s goal of reducing carbon dioxide emissions.

‘It is completely illogical for countries like the UK and the US to be decarbonising our own energy sectors while paying for coal-fired power plants to be built in other countries,’ he said.

‘It undermines global efforts to prevent dangerous climate change and stores up a future financial time bomb for those countries who would have to undo their reliance on coal-fired generation in the decades ahead, as we are having to do today.

‘Like the US, the UK recognises that there will be exceptions. We need to take account of new technologies such as Carbon Capture Storage and the very poorest countries where there are no alternatives. But many developing countries will soon find solar and similar energy technologies will become cheaper not just cleaner.’

A statement from DECC said the government would ‘only consider MDB proposals for financing coal-fired power plants in the world’s poorest countries where no other economically feasible alternative exists’.

Such proposals would have to show a compelling poverty reduction case and be part of a low-carbon development pathway including an option to install carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology, or include full CCS deployment from the start.

The US and the World Bank made similar announcements over the summer. According to the US Natural Resources Defence Council, Japan has been the biggest funder of overseas coal plants since 2007 ($19.7bn) followed by the US ($8.9bn) and Germany ($6.0bn).
Ty Gwyn
11 years ago
Ed Davey should have stopped off in Germany on his way to Warsaw,he may have been able to educate himself on EU emmissions,lol.
wheldale
11 years ago
The UK's industrial revolution was built on coal. Many developing countries need coal as its a cheap way of making electricity. In India people without electricity read books under street lighting to educate themselves.

I think there is a potential here to cause more bad than good by letting developing countries remain in poverty. There are also many experts saying at the moment that CO2 is not causing the greenhouse effect and climate change etc so is coal really dirty?? 90% of the emissions are cleaned in the modern plants.

As Ty Gwyn says, the energy secretary needs to look at Poland and Germany who seem to have more sense than us.

Simon M
  • Simon M
  • 50.2% (Neutral)
  • Newbie Topic Starter
11 years ago
Ed Davey should have stopped off in Germany on his way to Warsaw,he may have been able to educate himself on EU emmissions,lol.
Quote:



Agreed, he could measure the dioxins the German lignite burning power generation causes.

Ty Gwyn
11 years ago
"Simon M" wrote:

Ed Davey should have stopped off in Germany on his way to Warsaw,he may have been able to educate himself on EU emmissions,lol.

Quote:



Agreed, he could measure the dioxins the German lignite burning power generation causes.




Exactly,Germany is the big voice in the EU,and its an EU directive on Carbon Reduction this country is following,
Yet Germany`s Carbon is on the increase,and will increase further.
But don`t worry,Fracking will come to a village near you,the Governments save arse scheme.
wheldale
11 years ago
I read somewhere the other day that Germany already gets 30% of its electricity from renewables. Trouble is there was a week in January when the renewables didn't produce one watt of power.

As for fracking, there is a lot of mis-information being handed out about fracking. I don't think it will bring bills down but it might if it can be done safely make our gas supplies more secure.
Simon M
  • Simon M
  • 50.2% (Neutral)
  • Newbie Topic Starter
11 years ago
Emissions are nothing more than a revenue generator and even the pope has confirmed it, basically a method of generating something you can tax, then taxing it.

Proof!!! the introduction of E10 petrol, normal petrol contains UP TO 5% bio ethanol which is insignificant, but add up to 10% and you get a massive loss of fuel consumption and an INCREASE in co2 emissions.

See the scam, you ending up buying more petrol and Government makes more cash from duty and the emissions don't matter.
royfellows
11 years ago
"Simon M" wrote:

Emissions are nothing more than a revenue generator and even the pope has confirmed it



Is he the expert?
:lol:
My avatar is a poor likeness.
Simon M
  • Simon M
  • 50.2% (Neutral)
  • Newbie Topic Starter
11 years ago
No idea, but when he is well in the loop and publicly admits something like this then its very telling.
Ty Gwyn
11 years ago
Its all back to the Carbon Trading scam,big business,and without it,the emissions would`nt look so low.
Cat_Bones
11 years ago
Oh great, yet more conspiracy bullshit.

royfellows
11 years ago
"Cat_Bones" wrote:

Oh great, yet more conspiracy bullshit.



Not on this one, I wouldn't call it a scam exactly but there has been some serious money made there, hence 'vested interests'
My avatar is a poor likeness.
Cat_Bones
11 years ago
"royfellows" wrote:

"Cat_Bones" wrote:

Oh great, yet more conspiracy bullshit.



Not on this one, I wouldn't call it a scam exactly but there has been some serious money made there, hence 'vested interests'



Can't argue against there being money made by a lot of people, it's the mention of the pope as somehow being a key player in it that sets my bs-detector ringing.
royfellows
11 years ago
"Cat_Bones" wrote:

"royfellows" wrote:

"Cat_Bones" wrote:

Oh great, yet more conspiracy bullshit.



Not on this one, I wouldn't call it a scam exactly but there has been some serious money made there, hence 'vested interests'



Can't argue against there being money made by a lot of people, it's the mention of the pope as somehow being a key player in it that sets my bs-detector ringing.



Right on!
My avatar is a poor likeness.
Ty Gwyn
11 years ago
Its a shame the Pope was brought into this discussion,

But honestly,i would rather believe him to Any Government minister,

Carbon Trading,Global Warming,its all a taxable con,
As long as the accountant marks down you have planted some tree`s,you could burn tyres to generate electricity and still lower your emissions ,On Paper.
John Lawson
11 years ago
Interestingly, the Colombian government are so concerned with the environmental damage caused by a large American coal mining operation that they are shutting them down until they start complying with their clean up call.
They were off loading the coal, badly and so much of it was falling into the Carribean that some environmentalists were stating that the sea would take a generation to clean up the damage.
The other fact mentioned in this article is that the majority of this coal was exported to Europe.
Ty Gwyn
11 years ago
"John Lawson" wrote:


The other fact mentioned in this article is that the majority of this coal was exported to Europe.



Nothing changes,when the strike was on,Leeds City Council was supplied with Columbian coal,a Labour council in the heart of the Yorkshire coalfield.
Simon M
  • Simon M
  • 50.2% (Neutral)
  • Newbie Topic Starter
11 years ago
The pope was bought into it as he admitted it was a scam after conducting massive research, and the Vatican bank was exposed as one of those profiting from it.
Roger the Cat
11 years ago
+ Pax Vobiscum +
Ty Gwyn
11 years ago
"Roger the Cat" wrote:

+ Pax Vobiscum +



What does that mean in Welsh,lol.

Disclaimer: Mine exploring can be quite dangerous, but then again it can be alright, it all depends on the weather. Please read the proper disclaimer.
© 2005 to 2023 AditNow.co.uk

Dedicated to the memory of Freda Lowe, who believed this was worth saving...