Unknown Plateway - any suggestions?

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Peter Burgess
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12 years ago

I have recently been sent this image. Can anybody identify where it was taken?

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Any more information about the photo - photographer, for example?

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tarboat
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12 years ago

This is Glenfaba brickworks at Peel, Isle of Man.

crl50
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12 years ago

Superb image.

Willy Eckerslyke
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12 years ago

"crl50" wrote:
Superb image.

Agreed!

Out of interest, where would the brake lever be on a truck like that?

"The true crimefighter always carries everything he needs in his utility belt, Robin"

rufenig
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12 years ago

I would not expect a brake.
Driver would put a "chock" in front of a wheel or a bar through the spokes.

sinker
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12 years ago

"rufenig" wrote:
I would not expect a brake.

Yes agreed. He would need to have his wits about him!

Yma O Hyd....

Ty Gwyn
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12 years ago

"sinker" wrote:

"rufenig" wrote:
I would not expect a brake.

Yes agreed. He would need to have his wits about him!

Or otherwise the dram would end up,in the arse end of the Horse coming down a pitch,with only Tug Chains and a Whippletree,in the absence of a Shaft and Gun,

Spragging the wheels would be the method of slowing down the dram,depending on the pitch,the number of spraggs used.

I would imagine in this Mine,the surface pitch was not very steep,as they would have gone through many Horse`s using that tack.

Willy Eckerslyke
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"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

"sinker" wrote:

"rufenig" wrote:
I would not expect a brake.

Yes agreed. He would need to have his wits about him!

Or otherwise the dram would end up,in the arse end of the Horse

That's why I asked. It looks a lot of weight to stop even from walking pace. And I guess a horse like that would have represented a fair bit of money in those days.

"The true crimefighter always carries everything he needs in his utility belt, Robin"

Graigfawr
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12 years ago

Unusually broad running surfaces on the tram wheels compared to early and mid nineteenth century plateway tram wheels.

Peter Burgess
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12 years ago

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I suspect the wheels were of a design meant for a different use, like railway luggage trolleys or similar?

Ty Gwyn
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12 years ago

#11

Is there a way of blowing up the section of the track,like Roy did with drill photo?
I know photo`s can be deceiving,but the Horse is putting in effort to pull the dram,which looks as its on a pitch.

Are these plate rails,or are they ruts,given the wider wheels Graigfawr has pointed out?

remoteneeded
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12 years ago

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"Ty Gwyn" wrote:
Is there a way of blowing up the section of the track,like Roy did with drill photo?

Click on the photo, then click on the new one that comes up and you'll get a nice high resolution one. In that you can clearly see the sections of plateway.

Ty Gwyn
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12 years ago

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"remoteneeded" wrote:

"Ty Gwyn" wrote:
Is there a way of blowing up the section of the track,like Roy did with drill photo?

Click on the photo, then click on the new one that comes up and you'll get a nice high resolution one. In that you can clearly see the sections of plateway.

Excellent,i can now see the notch,where one plate has dropped,
Saves struggling with a magnifying glass,lol.

staffordshirechina
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12 years ago

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I would suggest that the horse is actually pulling up a slope.
The photo does not really give anything to reference the topography. As said, the horse is putting some effort in.
Also, there is no locker in the tub wheels so it is certainly not downhill in the instant of the picture. The haulage man does not have a locker in his hand in readiness, nor is there one obvious on the load so downhill is not imminent.

Ty Gwyn
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12 years ago

#15

But ,there again,there is no barhook on the back of the dram,
With flat wheels like them, a dirty road,a big heavy dram,and a Horse that`s tucked up[needing grub],that dram is not going anywhere without a tug.

You boy`s on here are the experts with the photo`s,if this Horse is pulling up pitch,what position would the photographer be in,to make it look the other way around,even the man is walking as if he`s going down hill.