agricola
13 years ago
"sinker" wrote:

"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote:

"agricola" wrote:

A jolly trip in Old Millclose from Shale Shaft to Steaming Shaft via Top Chamber or back passage & not getting lost on way ;D


You know, I reckon this thread is going to get a lot of google hits and a lot of disappointed searchers.:offtopic:



:lol:

"Steaming Shaft".... 😮

"Top Chamber"..... :devil:

"Back Passage"..... 😮

:lol: :angel:



Could miss steaming shaft and go straight to Red Lion Shaft, which is next to the pub 😉
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RJV
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13 years ago
Any idea what through trip covers the greatest vertical distance?

Gentlewoman's to Youd's is a contender I'd imagine?
JH to Speedwell as well though that would be stretching the definition of a mine to its very limits I imagine....
droid
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13 years ago
Get into some of the Eyam Edge shafts and you'd be close.... 😮
exspelio
13 years ago
Magpie shaft to sough tail, about 150metres in a mile. Possible but permission RARELY granted.
Some of the trips round Ecton could be contenders.
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ChrisJC
13 years ago
The Croesor shaft is 100m exactly, so if you then did the through trip into Rhosydd, I expect you'd be near 150m

As for distance, both the Great Swaledale Traverse and the Devis to Keldheads throughtrips will be over 4 miles (when they are dug open!!)

Chris.
christwigg
13 years ago
"ChrisJC" wrote:


As for distance, both the Great Swaledale Traverse and the Devis to Keldheads throughtrips will be over 4 miles (when they are dug open!!)



I'll pop up this weekend and sort those both out for you then

:lol:
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13 years ago
"ChrisJC" wrote:

The Croesor shaft is 100m exactly, so if you then did the through trip into Rhosydd, I expect you'd be near 150m.

Chris.



And if you totaled up the bouncing on the rope you'd be near a km 😉 😮
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ChrisJC
13 years ago
"christwigg" wrote:

"ChrisJC" wrote:


As for distance, both the Great Swaledale Traverse and the Devis to Keldheads throughtrips will be over 4 miles (when they are dug open!!)



I'll pop up this weekend and sort those both out for you then

:lol:



Good man - we need some locals on the case to finish the job!

Chris.
dwarrowdelf
13 years ago
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Although if you start faffing about in a bord and pillar workings mine you can easily reach hundreds of (identical) miles.




Some of the underground workings (firestone/hearthstone) in the Greensand beds of the North Downs, Surrey, are a bit like that ! 😢 😉
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AR
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13 years ago
"exspelio" wrote:

Magpie shaft to sough tail, about 150metres in a mile. Possible but permission RARELY granted.
Some of the trips round Ecton could be contenders.



That's unfortunately no longer possible, a major collapse between the shaft and Butts vein junction has blocked the final section of the sough.

Agricola - coming up Red Lion shaft for a pint is a waste of time unless you want to walk to the Three Stags or the Bowling Green, the Red Lion has been closed for several years now!
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agricola
13 years ago
"AR" wrote:

"exspelio" wrote:


Agricola - coming up Red Lion shaft for a pint is a waste of time unless you want to walk to the Three Stags or the Bowling Green, the Red Lion has been closed for several years now!



It never looked open the last time I ventured past which is some years ago, and was told that even when the pub was open it wasn't the place to go.

If the sough had been cleared beyond bolt wood you might have been able to walk from Steaming Shaft to a shaft close to the Miners (Arms ?) in Winster.
If it can't be grown it has to be mined.
Peter Burgess
13 years ago
"dwarrowdelf" wrote:

"christwigg" wrote:



Although if you start faffing about in a bord and pillar workings mine you can easily reach hundreds of (identical) miles.




Some of the underground workings (firestone/hearthstone) in the Greensand beds of the North Downs, Surrey, are a bit like that ! 😢 ;D

The surveyed length of the largest of the workings is about 16km. Entrance to entrance, maximum is 500m or so in a straight line. Complete round trip "left walling" would take 7 hours or so. Not a huge system really.
dwarrowdelf
13 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

"dwarrowdelf" wrote:

"christwigg" wrote:



Although if you start faffing about in a bord and pillar workings mine you can easily reach hundreds of (identical) miles.




Some of the underground workings (firestone/hearthstone) in the Greensand beds of the North Downs, Surrey, are a bit like that ! 😢 ;D

The surveyed length of the largest of the workings is about 16km. Entrance to entrance, maximum is 500m or so in a straight line. Complete round trip "left walling" would take 7 hours or so. Not a huge system really.



Peter, would that be Bedlam's bank by any chance? (always thought that getting lost in there would make for a rather long round trip!)
Is there a possibility that there are compararble or even larger firestone workings waiting to be discovered in the area but on land where there are as yet no access agreements?

'I wonder how many breakfasts, and other meals we have missed inside that nasty clockless, timeless hole?'

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Peter Burgess
13 years ago
Its impossible to be sure. Possibly under the downs at Reigate, or east of Bedlams, at the other corner of the old Chaldon parish where another quarry is known to have been worked.
sir francis lilo
13 years ago
you will never get more than 100 yards from the portal in keldheads,its propper f****d beyond repair,mind my language! 😉
sirfrancislilo its to wet to work lets go digging[u]
christwigg
13 years ago
"sir francis lilo" wrote:

you will never get more than 100 yards from the portal in keldheads,its propper f****d beyond repair,mind my language! ;D



Well nothing impossible given enough time and effort, but yeah it does look like a pretty big ask.
ChrisJC
13 years ago
"christwigg" wrote:

"sir francis lilo" wrote:

you will never get more than 100 yards from the portal in keldheads,its propper f****d beyond repair,mind my language! ;D



Well nothing impossible given enough time and effort, but yeah it does look like a pretty big ask.



Have you seen the amazing work at Tilberthwaite or Greenside that CATMHS have done? Nothing is impossible....

Chris.
RJV
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13 years ago
Somebody has tried to dig Keldhead in the past but were seemingly stopped by the National Park. The problem is that there are a few collapses very close to the entrance and the only place to dump spoil is outside of the mine which the Park objected to.

Slightly unusually for the northern dales, the level is in the bottom of a main dale, almost roadside and near houses.

If you can be bothered to hunt it down there was an article about it in (I think) the Observer Gardening Supplement, that bible of all Northern undergroundness...
christwigg
13 years ago
Its always a pain in the backside to find.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/3298636/Tunnel-visions.html 

I've only ever seen one other 'Keldheads Mine Research Group' dig. And they don't seem to be 'internet-enabled'

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sir francis lilo
13 years ago
i made that sign for theon going california dig on grinton moor! it wasnt the national park that stopped us it was english heritage,its fine to dig it but we were unable to tip the spoil outside the mine and with only about 100 yards to the dig was pointless,the mine was dug by an idiot and his brother over ten years ago with reinforced mesh,concrete and spoil on top in bags which didnt last and is now one hell of a tangled mess,they say the digs about 30 yards long and another not far after,so i wont say its impossible,lets just say virtually impossible!! 😠
sirfrancislilo its to wet to work lets go digging[u]

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