Morlock
8 years ago
Which "Lanehead"? Too many on MMap.

Edit: Did not read all the info but now know where to look.:-[

Morlock
8 years ago
After studying the water wheel image there appears to be a very light cable leading off to some buildings further up the hill, just going off the three posts and downed cable in the image?
Suppose it could be an unrelated telephone line.
Jim MacPherson
8 years ago
It's not that good an image but I think it's, maybe, looking downstream so it should be on the south side of the Killhope Burn, the 19thC OS maps show a (corn) mill on the north side in Cowshill, there is nothing on the current OS that I can see and nothing clear on the aerial view. Nothing's mentioned on "Keys to the Past" in relation to any mill at Lanehead but there appear to be two at Cowshill although one is definitely too large and there's not enough detail relating to the other Burtreeford Mill to tell.

There is a close-up view of the wheel which shows a cast iron frame with what look like sheet steel paddles, which is why I think it's late 19th C.

There is one possible site at NY 8449441313 at Heathery Bridge near a place called Cornriggs which may or may not mean anything.

I think a visit on a warm sunny day might be needed and I trust current occupant of the Cowshill Hotel is a bit more cheery than the last time I went in there in 1982:)
poosticker83
8 years ago
sure ive seen some similar stonework up heathery cleugh at lanehead, no building there few years ago however. Grasping at straws however.


Damned if you do, and damned if you don''''''''t.
Jim MacPherson
8 years ago
Hi poosticker83

Thanks for the suggestion about the the waterwheel location, perhaps Heathery Cleugh is a little too small a stream but I'll have a look in due course. Given that I think it was taken in 1995 there should be some remains still extant if not quite like the photo.

Jim
Morlock
8 years ago
Only (possibly small) mill I found was a fair way off at Blackdene sawmill. Topography doesn't look right though.
Jim MacPherson
8 years ago
Hilda and John knew the area quite well, so although he did, sometimes, "mis-annotate" things I'd hope it would be less the case here but who knows. It look like it should give me a good wander sometime this year.
Morlock
8 years ago
The fact that Google Earth imagery time rollback doesn't work for Lanehead is a bit of a pain.
Happy wandering.
Jim MacPherson
8 years ago
"Morlock" wrote:

Only (possibly small) mill I found was a fair way off at Blackdene sawmill. Topography doesn't look right though.

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The Blackdene mill site seems to have had quite a busy life starting as a lead crushing mill some time during the 19th C, then the sawmill, then part of Blackdene Mine fluorspar processing plant so presumably in use until the 1980's/90's. Which 6" series is your image from?

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Dave Williams also sent this fine image of Harry looking a little imperious outside the Horse Level.
oldpitman
8 years ago
The big clue is that gable end up on the hillside. I will ask the farmer next time. It's a steep valley on the photo, the valley deepens on way down to cowshill.
The old bloke at the pub has been dead a while.
Ment to find out about the Alston photo Today but brake pipe on van perished, so getting that repaired took priority, was going to call on Patch as he ran clargill, but headed off over hartside whilst I had some means of stoping
Jim MacPherson
8 years ago
I did ponder about the house(s) on the top of the bank, if I am right that the photo is taken looking downstream they might be on the roadside from Cowshill to Lanehead, perhaps fits with it being near Heathery Bridge-bit too may ifs and maybes to be at all confident.

The man at the pub did have a bit of a reputation for being sharp with people, probably didn't help by having our first born with us who was a year old at the time.

Again thanks for the delving.

Jim
Morlock
8 years ago
Jim MacPherson
8 years ago
Thanks Morlock,

Certainly an odd looking feature, I'll have a look in a few weeks when I have a wander around.

Jim
Morlock
8 years ago
The small telemetry cable and posts now make a little more sense

Jim MacPherson
8 years ago
Well I do need to get a bit fitter and nimbler so it look like I've got plenty of places to get to.

Any ideas why a water filter/header would have used a waterwheel, seems a bit extravagant just to pump water, most seem to have used a cheap and cheerful windmills prior to electric pumps being available.

Jim
oldpitman
8 years ago
Patch was out but I trailed up nent to see Hubert who has worked most of the Alston pits. He reckons it's clargill. He worked the screens as well.
Will catch patch in next couple weeks, trying to catch up on work after nororr virus and man flu, will be back up lane head before month end
Morlock
8 years ago
"Jim MacPherson" wrote:

Any ideas why a water filter/header would have used a waterwheel,



I would guess it's a flow measuring device as there seems to be some sort of telemetry involved.
It also looks like it would not provide much power.
Morlock
8 years ago
Wrong image posted earlier, map now changed to match sat image of rusty shed!:-[
Jim MacPherson
8 years ago
"Morlock" wrote:

"Jim MacPherson" wrote:

Any ideas why a water filter/header would have used a waterwheel,



I would guess it's a flow measuring device as there seems to be some sort of telemetry involved.
It also looks like it would not provide much power.



My next time-consuming challenge will be to try and calculate how much power it could have generated, while there are tables available for such things the photo doesn't give enough detail.

In comparison to the shed the wheel diameter might be 6ft, by the look of the stonework it was probably fed directly from a sluice in the stream, so sometimes quite a good flow rate would be possible, and was probably undershot, so no head benefit, but as it is metal not wood then it would have been relatively efficient. My first wild guess would be about one hp, .
Jim

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