gNick
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12 years ago
When doing a tidy up at Nenthead on Sunday we discovered a couple of new or possibly refurbished miner's pick heads.
Does anyone know where I could get some handles to suit?

The hole is roughly 2 1/4" x1 1/4" (57mm x 32mm).

There is also a tiny pick head which is probably some kind of builder's tool with a hole 1" x 5/8" (25mm x 16mm)
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12 years ago
Against the odds my sorry excuse for a memory has remembered this thread:
http://www.aditnow.co.uk/community/viewtopic.aspx?t=3672&txtSearch=handle&lblnWhere=all&lblnMatch=any 

A good car-boot sale or market would probably be a good bet.
Morlock
12 years ago
Just go off to B&Q (or similar) and select next size up for planing, power plane if possible. 😉

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Roger L
12 years ago
You could try 'Carters' at Honley, Huddersfield.
They have a large catalogue and make their own range of shovels and picks.
Mine Lectures & Walks available for around Huddersfield
Roger L
12 years ago
You hit the nail on the head.

Carter's had their premises in Kirkburton near to many mines in that area. A Sough from 'Box Ings Pit' comes out to the rear of their premises within a 2 minute walk.
Mine Lectures & Walks available for around Huddersfield
james l
12 years ago
I got mine from Defty's at Spennymoor , I also got a genuine miners shovel from there.Hope this help's :thumbsup:
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gNick
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12 years ago
Numpty me - I should have thought of the proper hardware shops we still have. Spennymoor here I come...
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Ty Gwyn
12 years ago
"james l" wrote:

I got mine from Defty's at Spennymoor , I also got a genuine miners shovel from there.Hope this help's :thumbsup:



The one with the hole for the tool bar?
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12 years ago
there's a defty's in Crook as well if anyone is passing through on their way up the dale
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12 years ago
As a matter of interest has anyone come across a left or right handed pick, I found a pick head (Cornwall) that was handed, I say it's a pick but it might be called something else, it only has one point on it (ie: basically an L shaped instrument) which is clearly offset from the handle hole. I'm guessing it was used on shaft/stope walls etc.

Lozz.
Ty Gwyn
12 years ago
"lozz" wrote:

As a matter of interest has anyone come across a left or right handed pick, I found a pick head (Cornwall) that was handed, I say it's a pick but it might be called something else, it only has one point on it (ie: basically an L shaped instrument) which is clearly offset from the handle hole. I'm guessing it was used on shaft/stope walls etc.

Lozz.



Anything like Morlocks photo above,which is a roadmans pick,which as had a piece welded on?
Although metal mine picks often only have one pick.
Morlock
12 years ago
Only thing that comes to mind with an offset is a rail keying hammer, possibly forged into something else?
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12 years ago
"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

"lozz" wrote:

As a matter of interest has anyone come across a left or right handed pick, I found a pick head (Cornwall) that was handed, I say it's a pick but it might be called something else, it only has one point on it (ie: basically an L shaped instrument) which is clearly offset from the handle hole. I'm guessing it was used on shaft/stope walls etc.

Lozz.



Anything like Morlocks photo above,which is a roadmans pick,which as had a piece welded on?
Although metal mine picks often only have one pick.



No, but imagine one of the spikes cut off just leaving a short stub and the other spike and that the handle fits to the head like a conventional pick ie: through an oval tapered hole then imagine that the spike that remains comes off the side of that oval and not the end as in a conventional pick, in other words in a plan view the spike is offset to the hole and therefore the handle, it's as though it is designed for close shaving the rock or whatever without catching your knuckles on the rock when in a tight space.
I will try and upload a picture of it if I can but it's well flaked rusty and worn, I will try and upload a picture tomorrow. It was found on a mine site in Cornwall.

Lozz
Ty Gwyn
12 years ago
Trying to imagine that Lozz,with difficulty,as the balance would be crap,
A photo would help greatly if possible.

Being`s we are on the subject of picks/mandrels,
The type of mandrel/pick available from Carters are roughly 20 pounds per handle and per pick head,they are the typical NCB issue,
The mandrels we used in the Small mines in South Wales were of the older type,longer picks,but much more slimline,with a paddle like handle,with an eye width of 3 3/4ins,varying slightly as being hand made,usually by the main manufacturer White House Bros of Cannock,
I have no didgy camera or otherwise i would post a few photos,as i make my own handles for these,as Carters wanted a minimum order of 500 to set up the machines,sadly there ain`t that number of Colliers left in South Wales.
Maybe Miner 85 will post a photo if he see`s this post.
Morlock
12 years ago
"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

Anything like Morlocks photo above,which is a roadmans pick,which as had a piece welded on?



Yep, a bit of car spring welded on a spare blade.
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12 years ago
"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

Trying to imagine that Lozz,with difficulty,as the balance would be crap,
A photo would help greatly if possible.

Being`s we are on the subject of picks/mandrels,
The type of mandrel/pick available from Carters are roughly 20 pounds per handle and per pick head,they are the typical NCB issue,
The mandrels we used in the Small mines in South Wales were of the older type,longer picks,but much more slimline,with a paddle like handle,with an eye width of 3 3/4ins,varying slightly as being hand made,usually by the main manufacturer White House Bros of Cannock,
I have no didgy camera or otherwise i would post a few photos,as i make my own handles for these,as Carters wanted a minimum order of 500 to set up the machines,sadly there ain`t that number of Colliers left in South Wales.
Maybe Miner 85 will post a photo if he see`s this post.



The above description I gave is a bit out! I havn't looked at the pick head for years, managed to find it this morning after a long search, I have posted three photo's of it in the Fowey Consols archive album.

Lozz.
Ty Gwyn
12 years ago
See what you mean by being off set,

Possibly a modification or a special done by the Mine blacksmith for a specific job?
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12 years ago
"Ty Gwyn" wrote:

See what you mean by being off set,

Possibly a modification or a special done by the Mine blacksmith for a specific job?



Yes, that's what I was thinking, it looks like it started off as a standard blacksmiths pick head stock then maybe re heated and forged over.
I don't think it got that way by use, originally the iron would have been a lot thicker, the rust comes of in thick slabs.

I am sure that not long after I first found it I found a similar item in an online catalogue of old mining tools, it might have been in the Harvey & Co of Hayle catalogue but I can't find that catalogue anymore online as a freeview.

The single point pick was in common use UG down here back then as opposed to the traditional two point pick.

Lozz.
gNick
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12 years ago
Going back to the thread, the wonderful Deftys in Spennymoor (a proper old school hardware shop) had some No 1 pick handles so I got a couple...

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Pick heads are a bit odd, being a pick one side and a hammer the other, presumably they are for plate laying or timbering? The larger one, on a shaft has NCB stamped on one side and Bulldog Tools 3 1/2 lb on the other.
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