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13 years ago
Part 1 - underground
Had an interesting (for me at least) & slightly more eventful than expected trip in Harnisha last weekend.
After briefly trying not to fill the wellies we gave up and splodged up the adit. Slightly surprised to find a large but very run-in shaft on the LHS too close to the entrance and even more surprised at the run-in sump also on the LHS which was draining water and it sounded like there was a fair bit of air-space above the water level. Maybe the weather has washed some sediment out as I don't think there was a lower level.
Had a gaze up the first ladderway but decided that although the first iron rungs in timber ladder looked OK, the all wood second ladder didn't look wonderful, maybe it was the rung with a bit missing...
Onward to the fall that has been mostly dug out where yours truly completely failed to get through the gap and no it wasn't my gut, I couldn't get that far in, my manly chest is obviously too deep! :lol:
Rich went on being (just) able to get through and I amused myself by scrambling up the fall to see what I could see. This might not have been my greatest decision in life. The whole lot was covered in mud with the consistency you might expect from something that has been soaking for a couple of weeks and there wasn't really much up there. After slithering down and sitting down to wait for Rich to return, I switched my light off to connect with my inner mole and promptly regretted it as a couple of vast boulders came crashing down. OK so they were about half brick size but it did nothing for my peace and wellbeing!
While now rather nervously waiting for Rich to return I noticed a strong draught heading inbye which got my interest as it meant that there was at least one other entrance open.
Once Rich got back we had a look at the fall and it seems to have mostly been cleared but I would be happy to do the finishing off if someone would come and keep me company as I am a rank coward when it comes to doing dangerous things. 🙂


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Part 2 - in the rain

The draft interested me so on Monday I popped back for a trudge around the getting even soggier moor to see what other entrances there were.
Heading to the quarry the other side of the road the top of the first shaft was immediately obvious in the quarry floor. Presumably it was a rise that was broken into by the quarry.

Up through the quarry you can see the line of the tramway to the second adit and the almost obligatory bit of car in the Burn itself just below where the bridge had been. Also just down from the adit is a fenced of and timber capped shaft and what is either another run-in shaft next to it of a big shakehole. The adit is run-in just about at the limit of visibility.
To the left of the adit there is what looks a bit like a gill heading up on your right but is in fact East Harnisha Hush (try saying that after a few pints) and the banks of Harnisha Burn seemed to have been properly built up here.
On the way up the hush there are several places that look like run-in shafts, one has stonework visible so probably is. About halfway up, just above the actual shaft, there is a track leading out on the north side leading to what looks like the old mill site. Lost of fine crushed rock though I couldn't find any galena, plenty of fluorite bits though.
Where the track comes into the hush there is also some concrete remains though of what I know not.
At the top of the hush there is a line of shafts following the vein line across the moor, all in line with Yew Tree mine workings. There are also a few shooting butts to add confusion!
Definitely piquing my interest were two fenced areas, the first being choked and flooded to a couple of feet from the surface and the second still covered with now collapsing timbers but the unmistakeable sound of water falling at depth. This must be where the draft was going to! Thoughts immediately went to whether a through trip would be possible, slightly spoiled by my complete lack of SRT gear and any experience in using it. Minor details.
Using that highly accurate web-based mapping experience Google Maps, I reckon that this shaft is about a kilometre from the open adit entrance.
Turning my gaze from the excitement of a hole in the ground and back along the vein line I was by this point not in the slightest bit surprised to find signs of more shaft tops, heading off. One of these was ominously filled with dark peaty water that was probably shallow but I wasn't going to jump in to find out!
The last of the shafts also had what, from a distance, looked like a normal level spoil heap nearby. This is another 600m or so on from the open shaft and is in very boggy ground, in fact marked as a spring on the old maps. Getting up closer, the spoil heap is odd in that the stones are very big, looking more like quarry waste than mine. Curiouser and curiouser said Alice.

Heading back having lost the will to splodge any further over the moor, I came down the North side of the hush and found what looks like a dam above the run-in level. I say looks like a dam because there is a big triangular promontory in the middle of where the water should be and it isn't really that big. Even more curious. There are also other possible constructed channels around so there may have been some kind of water management here. Maybe a water blast down to the main adit?

Enough of my ramblings, if anyone else has something to add, especially some plans I would love to have a look...
I will now post a picture or two.
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christwigg
13 years ago
British Mining 56 has the following to say.

Adit Level NY99013513
[photo]Harnisha-Burn-Lead-mine-User-Album-Image-64289[/photo]

Waggonway Level NY98673490
[photo]Harnisha-Burn-Lead-mine-User-Album-Image-64291[/photo]

Earlier working on Yew Tree Vein around East Harnisha Hush (NY98553485)
A line of shafts extends 800m up the fell from 18th century.
Adit Level driven along vein for 1000m. Waggonway Level follows vein for 200m to cross vein, branch follows cross vein for 450m SE. Level used to terminate at last shaft NY97713432.

Shaft 50m below Waggonway Level probably worked vein below Adit Level.

Theres also traces of the Coal Sill Level on the cross vein at NY98663454. Driven 250m SE. Air shaft at 200m
[photo]Harnisha-Burn-Lead-mine-User-Album-Image-64288[/photo]

Theres also supposed to have been another adit called Burnfoot Level just 30m downstream of Adit Level, but i've never spotted it.
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One thing I forgot to mention, underground there were a load of leather(?) straps roughly 6"x1" x 1/8" (150mm x 25mm x 3mm for those of a metric mind) with a small eyelet in each end. Anyone know what these are/were from my dire description? I'll get a picture next time I'm that way on...
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christwigg
13 years ago
Sounds like they might have supported an air or water pipe along the level
Briggsy
13 years ago
one of my favorite mines, have explored up the SRT man way, very good, but very sketchy at times. it terminates in this amazing shot taken by my friend. sadly the passage beyond is totally collapsed.

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boltsburn
13 years ago
Just to add a few things that i know about harnisha burn mine and the yew tree mine over the burn.I have been down these mines a few times in the early 1980s when Mick Maddison held the lease on both mines i made notes on the trips i made and this is what i wrote.Harnisha Burn main level has been reopened for a total distance of half a mile with all rail still in with 15 mine tubs and one loco level ends at a shale fall that Mick has started to clear,Harnisha burn top level is open for a distance of 375yds to a fall holes in the floor go down stopes to the main level,Yew tree mines two levels open low level open but is in bad condition with lots of rotten timbers is open for 100yds to a fall,top level is in better condition but is only open for 200yds rail is still in.In 1984 Mick had to retire due to health problems so he never did any more work in the mines i went down Harnisha burn main level the last time in 1988 all the rail was still in the loco and tubs were gone and the level had started to run in again.I hope this helps, i have a large survey of Harnisha burn mine i was given by Mick will try to photograph it sometime.
christwigg
13 years ago
A few of us stuck our heads in Yew Tree last year and it was in a very bad way.

There was only one level open and it went about 30 yards before turning onto the vein and being accessible a short distance in each direction.

http://www.aditnow.co.uk/album/Yew-Tree-Fluorite-Mine-2-User-Album/ 

I'm sure a few on here would be very interested in seeing the plan of Harnisha
royfellows
13 years ago
Can someone tell me anything about a mine near Harnisha reached by a track to the left just uphill of Harnisha and on the road bends.
I walked to this last year.
Magazine in perfect condition, mine buildings converted into a shooting lodge, and an open level that looked very wet.
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christwigg
13 years ago
Can you give a rough grid reference Roy ?

I've got all the stuff from the British Mining book for that area on an electronic map.
royfellows
13 years ago
Oh dear, its much further up the road, sorry.
Me long past my 'sell by' date

NZ 01159 30782

This is from "Where's the path", beats Googe hands down.

Should have thought of BM as well, me member NMRS.
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christwigg
13 years ago
Whats 5km between friends.

I have that down as Sharnberry.
Never been myself, but there are quite a few photos.

"Sharnberry was originally a London Lead Co Mine but was reopened in the 1950's by a Mr Ward and was worked by SAMUK for fluorspar in the 1970's" according to sparty_lea
royfellows
13 years ago
"christwigg" wrote:

Whats 5km between friends.

I have that down as Sharnberry.
Never been myself, but there are quite a few photos.

"Sharnberry was originally a London Lead Co Mine but was reopened in the 1950's by a Mr Ward and was worked by SAMUK for fluorspar in the 1970's" according to sparty_lea



Thanks for that.
You should go and see it, its an interesting place.
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christwigg
13 years ago
"royfellows" wrote:



Thanks for that.
You should go and see it, its an interesting place.



I might just do that 🙂
Manxman
13 years ago
Sharnberry 'new' level resembles all the worst bits of Old Middlehope Mine multiplied by the Parys Mountain nightmare sections.

Good luck.

christwigg
13 years ago
Sounds great !

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