Indeed. But it makes you wonder who the 'skilled knobs' are who are leaving litter on something like the CRTT.

Knobs but probably not skilled. Half the people who do that trip have barely been underground before. The sort of dicks you were complaining about on Sunday.

The sort of dicks you were complaining about on Sunday.

Yeah, I really shouldn't do that when Simon and Edd aren't there to defend themselves :lol: :lol:

Indeed. But it makes you wonder who the 'skilled knobs' are who are leaving litter on something like the CRTT.

Mmm, now there's the creaking lid of a whole different can of worms. That trip has become an adrenalin 'playground' for some people who do not respect it's dangers, and I believe it is a disaster of epic proportion just waiting to happen.
As sad as it makes me, I honestly feel that it is only a matter of time before someone dies in there.

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Indeed. But it makes you wonder who the 'skilled knobs' are who are leaving litter on something like the CRTT.

Mmm, now there's the creaking lid of a whole different can of worms. That trip has become an adrenalin 'playground' for some people who do not respect it's dangers, and I believe it is a disaster of epic proportion just waiting to happen.
As sad as it makes me, I honestly feel that it is only a matter of time before someone dies in there.

A very common belief there Chris. Reminds me I wanted to put a post up about it with some observations from last weekend's trip through.

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Just my opinion but I think that the whole adventure side of mine exploring is very appealing, I don't know how to break this down further but to me, large underground spaces are simply beautiful.

The trouble happens when people make assumptions or try to make something into something that it isn't, in this case assuming that just because Croesor-Rhosydd hasn't claimed any lives yet, means that it's safe, and an easy going trip for anyone. I think this is a vaguely the same principle as my latest studies on tsunamies, people build in such areas assuming that it will be ok.

I know what you mean by the whole lightpainting thing. I love doing creative things with light but I suppose messing with lights attracts more people than industrial archaeology (people who respect the mine) so whilst mine explorers can be artists, artists with light may not always respect the mine, but that's not to say all of them by any means.

Bout this Moel Fferna trip, assuming I can get there alright, would I be alright 'attempting' to photograph some of these huge pillars in the chambers? Wouldn't take long. Also having someone posing near them would be good 😛 🙂

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I'll be wandering about with a camera too, as, I suspect, will a number of others.

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Just a quick bump for this weekend's Moel Fferna trip!

The list is currently:

fjällvandring
hymac580c
llay101 +2
NewStuff
SimonRL
sinker
steve turbo + 1
Willy Eckerslyke

(11 people)
Is everybody still coming? :thumbsup:

Steve and NewStuff - I think you were both bringing some mates as well?

There'll be enough of us that we can split up if some folk want to take photos and some don't or anybody has a specific area the want to check out.

Should be a good trip :thumbsup:

I'm bringing some black bin bags and intend to have a clear up. If the litter is as bad as rumoured it sounds like it needs doing.

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Just one between us, You met him the other night. We need to take this one back alive though 😉 :devil: :tongue:

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Just one between us, You met him the other night. We need to take this one back alive though 😉 :devil: :tongue:

we will see on the day 😉

I am still coming with 2 other explorers.

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Count me in :thumbup:

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I intend to be there. :thumbsup:

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I intend to be there. :thumbsup:

There may be a lift on offer....but I can't commit just yet as I may not be going straight home after....or rather I may be going home via Derby :blink:

I assume that we are meeting in the usual lay-by and then sharing cars up to the farm track?

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I am still coming with 2 other explorers.

Oioioi.......you cant take anyone, the trip is fully booked....thats why I didnt put my name down 😠 :lol:

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Never too full for you to come along Llion! :flowers:

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Never too full for you to come along Llion! :flowers:

Ha very funny Llion. I actually put earlier in the thread that I was bringing 3 people but someone has dropped out.

You have to come Llion, not seen you in ages!

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Never too full for you to come along Llion! :flowers:

Thank you for your kind offer Mr RL, I have now had to make other plans... Speedy is up for the weekend, will be nursing him on a couple of trips 😉
Have a good one you buggers :lol:

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Purely out of idle curiousity here's what the Moel Fferna mine looks like overlaid onto Google earth.

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The air shaft is on the bright green tree in the centre of the image.

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Is this the meet-up place you had in mind Sinker?

10AM here:

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=52.973075&lon=-3.256807&z=18.5&r=0&src=msl 

It's a layby on the right hand side of the road when travelling towards Llangollen. It's further along the A5 than the pub, and a bit beyond Glyn Dyfrdwy.

I do not believe it has any parking restrictions - it didn't last time we used it at least.

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