simonrl
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15 years ago
Dragging the conversation back to road salt ;)

I see they are starting to ration:

"BC News" wrote:

Britain is bracing itself for icy blasts as the freezing weather looks set to continue over the weekend.

The forecast came as the government stepped in to conserve road-gritting stocks due to dwindling salt supplies.

The Transport Secretary, Lord Adonis, said local authorities had agreed to cut salt use by 25%.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8449189.stm 

And did everybody see that amazing NASA image of the UK?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/8447023.stm 

And Vanoord is very upset because he was off to watch 22 grown men kick a bag of wind around on Sunday, and they've cancelled it incase any of them get chilly.

So he might be coming underground instead 😉 Which is after all what it's all about :angel:
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royfellows
15 years ago
Sorry, forgot to say Politics, Religion and football

I’m logging off for night now anyway, have fun.

My avatar is a poor likeness.
Peter Burgess
15 years ago
I love that photo. You can just about make out one or two places where there is no snow.
Morlock
15 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

I love that photo. You can just about make out one or two places where there is no snow.



The Gower looks green in the pics, not so a few days ago. 😉

Notice the plume of silt emanating from the River Severn?
christwigg
15 years ago
I can see the pub from here....
Vanoord
15 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

I love that photo. You can just about make out one or two places where there is no snow.



And I work in one of the green bits - which is why I spent the day when it was snowing wondering what all the fuss was about.

Curiously, I came across a gritter that evening, but it merely seemed to be using it's tiny plough to shuffle a small amount of snow to the side of the road rather than doing any actual gritting.

Anyway, Vanoord's fact of the day: I never realised that snow tyres use snow for adhesion - they are designed to hold small amounts of snow, which grip on the snow they are travelling over. Somewhat odd, but I can (just about) see the logic.
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Peter Burgess
15 years ago
I've been trying to find the hi-res copy of that image I was looking at on Wednesday (?). I think it was on NASAs site. If I find it, I'll post the link - that's the one to look at!
Vanoord
15 years ago
Here you are: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/42000/42237/gbritain_tmo_2010007_lrg.jpg 

NASA's Twitter feed is very handy sometimes! 😉
Hello again darkness, my old friend...
Peter Burgess
15 years ago
Brilliant! I can go to bed now. :thumbsup:
toadstone
15 years ago
"simonrl" wrote:

Dragging the conversation back to road salt ;)

I see they are starting to ration:

"BC News" wrote:

Britain is bracing itself for icy blasts as the freezing weather looks set to continue over the weekend.

The forecast came as the government stepped in to conserve road-gritting stocks due to dwindling salt supplies.

The Transport Secretary, Lord Adonis, said local authorities had agreed to cut salt use by 25%.



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And Vanoord is very upset because he was off to watch 22 grown men kick a bag of wind around on Sunday, and they've cancelled it incase any of them get chilly.

So he might be coming underground instead 😉 Which is after all what it's all about :angel:



Not bad Simon ......... politics, sport and an angel (religion) 😉 😉 😉

I'd better keep my thoughts to myself 😉 😉

Still the bright side is I get to play when the weather is right.
http://www.kap.toadstone.com/biglow/zoomify1/ 

Cheers me dears it 's started snowing again !!!
carnkie
15 years ago
That aerial view is very impressive. I'm amazed at the sharpness of the panorama. :thumbsup:
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
toadstone
15 years ago
"carnkie" wrote:

That aerial view is very impressive. I'm amazed at the sharpness of the panorama. :thumbsup:



Thanks carnkie, and for other comments posted in another thread. I use a Canon A640 with CHDK loaded. I think the shots were taken @800th & 600th sec. There was a nice steady wind which allowed the kite to pull the payload up no problem.

Trying to keep on topic if you look carefully in the distance beyond Alderley Edge you can just make out the queue of wagons waiting to load up with Rock Salt at Middlewich ::) :lol: :lol:
Peter Burgess
15 years ago
It's a rubbish picture, and would never win a competition since there is nobody in it for scale.
carnkie
15 years ago
Nipping back quickly to salt perhaps we should take a few tips from the Native Americans.

Native Americans of the Miwok tribe in the northern Sierra Nevada, California carved these basins into the granite bedrock to produce salt for trade. They filled the basins with water from a salt spring and let the water evaporate, leaving a salt residue in the basin. The basins are about a meter in diameter and span the area of a football field.
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An abstract and full report can be found here if of interest.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/sir/2009/5225/ 

The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
ttxela
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15 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

It's a rubbish picture, and would never win a competition since there is nobody in it for scale.



Nobody in it :confused: where did everyone go when it was taken then :ohmygod:
jagman
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15 years ago
"carnkie" wrote:

Nipping back quickly to salt perhaps we should take a few tips from the Native Americans.

Native Americans of the Miwok tribe in the northern Sierra Nevada, California carved these basins into the granite bedrock to produce salt for trade. They filled the basins with water from a salt spring and let the water evaporate, leaving a salt residue in the basin.

An abstract and full report can be found here if of interest.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/sir/2009/5225/ 



Salt pans on the coast were once fairly common in Britain.
Filled with seawater and allowed to evaporate.
toadstone
15 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

It's a rubbish picture, and would never win a competition since there is nobody in it for scale.



Oh Dear, I wasn't going to reply but if you care to look at the lane to the left of the picture you will see 2 walkers and what's more going back to that infamous thread............... there's not one but a flock of sheep to satisfy those of that ilk.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't worry I'm back at work on Monday :ban:
derrickman
15 years ago
"ttxela" wrote:

"Peter Burgess" wrote:

It's a rubbish picture, and would never win a competition since there is nobody in it for scale.



Nobody in it :confused: where did everyone go when it was taken then :ohmygod:



anyway, it's not backlit....
''the stopes soared beyond the range of our caplamps' - David Bick...... How times change .... oh, I don't know, I've still got a lamp like that.
JohnnearCfon
15 years ago
Nor is it in B&W!
sougher
15 years ago
Brownwich Farm, near Warsash, S. Hampshire (the only last four square miles of open countryside remaining between Portsmouth and Southampton) was where the monks of Titchfield Abbey (under the auspices of Abingdon Priory) in the 1100's used lead salt pans to evaporate sea water to obtain salt. I assume that the salt pans would have been made from Mendip lead, as I discovered that Mendip lead was transported across to Winchester and then boated down the River Itchen (one of Hampshire's beautiful trout rivers) to Southampton. The Romans also used lead salt pans on one of the islands (name has slipped my memory at the moment) off Portsmouth for the same process of salt manufacture, again I assume that it was Mendip lead as the Roman port in Southampton was at Bitterne and Mendip lead ingots have been found there. The reason why I did this research about salt pans in Hampshire was the County Council had proposed the site of Brownwich Farm for a gravel extraction site, over 2,000 objections to the plan were received. I had to have a valid reason for objection and with the name ending in "wich" immediately made me think of the Cheshire "wichs" indicating salt, and further investigation on the internet came up with this information. There had been an archaelogical dig on the site during the 1950's proving this fact. Needless to say the proposal was dropped.

When we wrote the Bonsall Book, I did a lot of research into the background of salt pans, because the "yuppies" on the book insisted I was wrong when I wrote that Derbyshire lead was transported to the east and north east both by road and water, for eventual shipment out from the Humber. I consulted Doug Nash and Lyn Willies who both told me that I was correct. The "yuppies" had seen a reference about the Romans using lead salt pans at the salt springs in Cheshire (apparently there were no salt mines then) and immediately thought that it had to be Derbyshire lead that was used. My argument was that the N. Wales lead was far more accessible to Cheshire for the Romans to use than the Derbyshire (think of what the terrain between the Peak and the Cheshire plain must have been like in Roman times for transport, it was bad enough until recent times) and of course in Roman times Cheshire was a port wasn't it? I know of course that the salt was transported from Cheshire eastwards to Derbyshire and beyond, but from many records researched (not just by me but many other people over the years) smelted lead from Derbyshire tended mostly to be transported to Hull and the Humber.

Talking of snow ploughs, I remember a very hot day in summer 2005 when I lived at Upper Town, Bonsall and suddenly saw a snow plough with all it's lights flashing parked outside my cottage. I couldn't resist asking the driver if a snow warning had been given! Turned out that he was sanding after the laying of tarmac. Oh well.

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