Tamarmole
12 years ago
"Vanoord" wrote:

Nowt to do with fancy kit or clubs - a cheap builders helmet costs less than a fiver, but will save your head getting smashed in when someone kicks a rock off a ledge. Okay it's not the best and it lacks a chin strap, but it's 90% of the way there.





I quite agree - i'd did some of my hardest caving/ mine exploration in a builders type helmet and a boiler suit knocked off from work.

It is very easy to get hung up on shiny kit but as a bare mininmum I would suggest that anyone venturing underground has a helmet of some sort, a reasonable quality light and a back up light (I am constantly amazed how many people don't carry a back up). A couple of quid now could save a lot of grief in the long run.

ICLOK
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12 years ago
Reading this and as someone who has only recently just started going underground again after a longish period away... I stick to what I was told when I first started going UG 30 years ago...

A good Helmet with a good bracket for your lamp. (for the reasons given above).

A Good lamp - best you can afford, the longer the life the better!

Back Up Lamp(s) - Spare lighting with enough light/power to get you out will suffice, base this on duration of trip.

Spare Battery(s)/Bulb/Carbide.

A good plan of where you are going or least some pre research / advice.

The right tackle for what you are going to attempt to explore, buy the best you can afford.

Decent Footwear such as quality wellies, boots pref toe caps.

Suitable clothing for the conditions to be encountered.

And a few simple luxuries like Chocolate, butties etc and a drink dependent on the length of trip! Kendal mint cake as a Just in Case we get stuck food is great.

Leave a good description of where you are going (NGR ok), time out and a panic time. Also leave the number of cave rescue.

And the final bit of advise was to "remember where you are and to be cautious in all you do, think before you move or act, look out for each other, and know your limits".


The guy who told me all of the above and which I wrote almost word for word in pencil in the back of my Caves of Derbyshire is sadly long since gone but I think he summed things up wonderfully. Nothing really changes :thumbsup:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Creeper!!!!!
Owt
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12 years ago
Just one point - to call out cave rescue team contact the police (999).
t1twenty
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12 years ago
Thanks for your response. The first time we went down we did wear helmets, having found no real tight squeezes we decided for the second trip it was not really needed, I understand peoples opinions to going underground in whatever situation to wear helmets and will remember this for next time. As you say there is a way of saying so without the attitude.
ICLOK
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12 years ago
At the end of the day its a superb but dangerous interest and with the best will in the world nobody ever wants anyone getting injured or killed.... its an emotive subject and as such can bring out a number of emotions in people with regards to safety. Just look after yourself and others.
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t1twenty
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12 years ago
Will do! Cheers

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