minerat
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15 years ago
has anyone out there got any info on measuring the waterflow in mines. help would be appreciated.
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Morlock
15 years ago
As in measuring a free flowing stream?
derrickman
15 years ago
as in v-notch wier?

http://www.lmnoeng.com/Weirs/vweir.htm 
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Morlock
15 years ago
I was going to suggest this one as it saves the calculations. 🙂

http://www.rpc.com.au/products/hydropower/Flow-V-Notch-Weirs.pdf 
minerat
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15 years ago
what I have is an old well which was dug in 1800s at the bottom is a small stream which if the temperature is o.k. and the flow rate is constant we intend to get some heat from it. thanks for the info...much appreciated I dont know much about this.
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Morlock
15 years ago
Water is an ideal heat pump source , as you say depends on the flow rate. :)
Low flow rates are usable if the source can be dammed to provide a higher flow during any period you want to extract heat.
LeeW
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15 years ago
The temperature of the water will ofcourse depend on the depth from which it has come up from. If this is fairly shallow then it is likely to be about 10 degrees C and vary seasonally. If it's from fairly deep then it's likely to have a temperature of upto to about 14 degrees C.

If the well is still open then the heat exchanger could be installed down the well, thus not relying on flowing water.

If you want to measure the flow then generally the type of weir depends on the range of likely flows.

For low flows (up to say 10 l/s) a 28 degree V-notch weir would be more suitable. For higher flows of up to say 60l/s a 90 degree V-notch weir would be more appropiate for flows in excess of this then a rectangular notch would be more suitable. The most common type we use are 90 degrees has these give a large range and are fairly easy to cut.

There are a few published pieces on getting geothermal energy from mine water discharges etc.

Another popular option for a similiar type of heat extraction is via laying of load of pipes under the topsoil and getting heat from the ground.
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derrickman
15 years ago
one comment I would make about v-notch wiers, is that while they are simple and effective, you do have to be able to see them to gather any data. This might not be easy to arrange down a well.

you might be better off with a paddle wheel or some other mechanical or electronic method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_measurement 
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stuey
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15 years ago
Any rough ideas of the flow (ish) and the size "hole" you can use for the heat exchanger?

Do you have any idea of the duty that the exchanger has to handle?

If so, specing it is pretty straightforward.

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