stuey
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16 years ago
I was down here a few weeks ago and chucked a stone down the 180-220ft deep shaft and wondered, has anyone dropped this? There is a short footway nearby with a wall around it. Nothing really mentioned in Dines or Jenkin about whether it goes or not. It's not that high up my list of priorites but I'd be interested to know more about it. Any idea who owns the land?

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jimc1390
16 years ago
where abouts is that roughly, i cant quite make it out from the angle of the photo, there are a cooupke in that area tindene, trescowe etc
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jimc1390
16 years ago
where abouts is that roughly, i cant quite make it out from the angle of the photo, there are a cooupke in that area tindene, trescowe etc
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stuey
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16 years ago
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.135328&lon=-5.381624&z=17.7&r=0&src=msl 

Looking at the 1888 map, the area is pickled with shafts. I'll go back at some point and try and find them all.
jimc1390
16 years ago
i have been trying to put names to engine houses in that area for a while, if you came up from godolphin heading to trescowe, there is a big engine house on the left of the road set back 100 yards i reckon, what is that one?
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ICLOK
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16 years ago
Is it this?? if so its Great Work
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You might also want to go to Polladras Downs
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And I guess this one is just up the road
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh Creeper!!!!!
jimc1390
16 years ago
the top picture i recognise as leeds shaft from great work, had a look around the other day, does anyone else know this site well? stretching off from the shaft at a right angle to the house is a deepish trench about 30 foot in length, what was this for? stamps maybe? also i have read before that chimneys were built in to the house for strength, why is this chimney seperate? the other two shots i dont recognise, any names for these?
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jimc1390
16 years ago
just looked again at wheal vor, i know of it now, we have some fields at work just above it ,the bottom one i cant quite make out,
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stuey
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16 years ago
The great work trench is the remains of an openwork, if I recall. I really suggest you get Ham Jenks number 4. The mounts bay one and then 13 (I think) St Hilary and Breage.

13 always costs a few quid, but it's a good one. Failing that, get a scanner and nick it from the library.

Ham Jenks are about the only real comprehensive books in the area. Then you have Dines to get.

Best bet is probably abebooks.co.uk or moorebooks if you are lucky. Mike has a good stock and shifts it quick as well.

I get all my info from 6" maps, flashearth, google earth and ham jenks/dines. Then you have Noall and Morrison for the other areas.

You need to have a gander at the 6" maps to see the detail. The place is pickled with workings.

Anyway. Bedtime.
jimc1390
16 years ago
thanks, iwas just about to ask for a decent book with this sort of info in it,
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ICLOK
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16 years ago
Sounds very much you trying to feel your way into this so you might want to try some basic walks that explain what's to see in the major areas ... so you could try the Exploring Cornish Mines series 1-4 and also Mining Sites in Cornwall & South West Devon which give modern NGRs (Both have their innaccuracies but are basically fine)... These are good starters for 10 before you wheel out the Heavy Artillery such as HKJ and Dines.... Not every Cornish engine house is in the suggested volumes but they cover most of the obvious stuff.


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Cornish Pixie
16 years ago
Stacks weren't always built into the engine house; some were separate, sited away from the boiler house and connected to it by a long flue - this was usually done for reasons of getting sufficient updraught. See the recent postings on this site about Cornish design engine houses - they come in all shapes and sizes!!!!
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ICLOK
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16 years ago
Ello Ello... the typically untypical Cornish Engine house strikes again!!! 😉
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Alasdair Neill
16 years ago
Most open shafts in this area have been looked at by PCG, but not West Godolphin. Stuey, If you are interested I would be up for it but probably not available now till mid-late August. Can speak to local contacts re access. Best to ring me.

Ali.
jimc1390
16 years ago
forgive my thickness pcg? im new to this ::)
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Roy Morton
16 years ago
Ref; PCG = Plymouth Caving Group :thumbup:
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stuey
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16 years ago
"Alasdair Neill" wrote:

Most open shafts in this area have been looked at by PCG, but not West Godolphin. Stuey, If you are interested I would be up for it but probably not available now till mid-late August. Can speak to local contacts re access. Best to ring me.

Ali.



Yep, I'm up for it. I also have a few others that you may have not looked at. We'll have to have a proper chat at some point, I've always missed you on various PCG trips. S
carnkie
16 years ago
"Cornish Pixie" wrote:

Stacks weren't always built into the engine house; some were separate, sited away from the boiler house and connected to it by a long flue - this was usually done for reasons of getting sufficient updraught. See the recent postings on this site about Cornish design engine houses - they come in all shapes and sizes!!!!



I was in the CSL today and got sidetracked, as one does, and started reading Cornish Stacks and Engine Houses, an article by J.H. Trounson in the 1982 Trevithick Society Journal.

He opens:
One of the first questions frequently asked is 'Why were the stacks so frequently built as a part of the engine house itself?'.The reason is that this construction saved a considerable amount of masonry and therefore cost, and the two being combined made for a stronger structure in as much as one supported and 'stiffened' the other.
Although the tall beam engine houses frequently had their stack built at one corner, in other cases the stack was free standing and sometime"s quite a distance from the house. The reason for this is not clear, drawings still exist of some of these buildings designed by the same consulting engineer who in one case might build house and stack combined, and the next time buiIt them separately. One can only concllude that it depended on the whim of the engineer.

I can scan and upload the article if anyone is interested. It's mainly to do do with construction and unusual stacks.

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jimc1390
16 years ago
i would be interested to see something like that carnkie thanks!!
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carnkie
16 years ago
"jimc1390" wrote:

i would be interested to see something like that carnkie thanks!!



Will do it when I get five in the next couple of days Jim.
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