Roy Morton
16 years ago
If you are wondering what is to happen to Robinson's shaft on Sth Crofty look no furter.
I don't know if anyone has seen this site already for those that haven't,


http://www.theheartlandsproject.org.uk/robinsonsshaft.htm 
"You Chinese think of everything!"
"But I''m not Chinese!"
"Then you must have forgotten something!"
Tezarchaeon
16 years ago
It just looks so awfully 'soon to be dated'. All the typical moden fads seem to be there and it seems that the mine is just a nice excuse for some people to line their pockets with contracts for building ugly sheds, lakes and windmills that look disgraceful next to what was one of the most beautiful intact mining sites in the county (untill it was vandalised by the council and yobs).

I'd rather see something like Geevor than this modern rubbish (and this is comming from someone who is only 21 here!).
JohnnearCfon
16 years ago
What a load of ****!

Interesting that not one mention is made that although the mine closed 10 years ago it is reopening. Oh no, I forgot, that isn't a good thing for a 21st century Cornwall, my mistake.

As Tezarchaeon says, all the right boxes are ticked. Especially the 3 windmills in the picture. What more could anyone possibly want?

Yuk.
carnkie
16 years ago
This was on the Beeb last year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/6913384.stm 

Mind it will have a coffee bar, bar, farmers market, etc. Give me strength.
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
stuey
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16 years ago
The Heartlands Project will see the buildings sympathetically and "INNOVATIVELY restored"

What, they are actually going to do a GOOD job.

I wonder if they have a need for a lesbian diversity officer. I have too much time on my hands at the moment.

I also dislike the "fans"
JR
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16 years ago
I've just viewed the link to the Heartlands web page with the 'vision' outlined. I noted that one of the quoted aims is to"Study Cornwall’s massive population migration.".
Do these idiots have no sence of irony at all !!


sleep is a caffeine deficiency.
Roy Morton
16 years ago
Viewing the above replies, I'm glad that the general concensus is in keeping with everyone else I have spoken to in person. The essence (preservation) is good, the 'interpretation', a word that sends shudders up my spine when attached to anything heritage oriented, is pretty naff but in keeping with the other parts of Cornwall that have been so 'Sympathetically Restored'. I wonder what on earth future generations will believe based on the Sympathetic and sanitised remains of what was once visually self explanatory, and needed no interpretation, Oh god! there's that word again. :guns: :guns: :guns:
"You Chinese think of everything!"
"But I''m not Chinese!"
"Then you must have forgotten something!"
spitfire
16 years ago
You must not knock all interpretation Roy.
Here is a fact I know to be absolutley true.
At the age of 25 Demelza had lost all her teeth due to eating the produce of her husbands treacle mine

May as well start as they want us to go on!
spitfire
Roy Morton
16 years ago
Say No more!.... The picture is now complete!
P.S. Poor old Demelza!...........
"You Chinese think of everything!"
"But I''m not Chinese!"
"Then you must have forgotten something!"
Roy Morton
16 years ago
I wonder what popular myths will become' facts' in the future.

Here's a few I have come across time and time again.

'You can walk from South Crofty to Portreath underground'

'You can walk from Redruth to Bodmin / Penzance along the County Adit'

'There's a hole under Trelowarren Street in Camborne that you could fit Truro Cathedral into'

'There's a massive lake underneath Carn Brea'

'If you look up from the bottom of a shaft in daylight, you can see the stars'

'Legend says if you hold a pasty to one ear, you can hear the wind whisting in the other one!' ....sorry, that one was from a Goonshow, but I'm sure most people have come across similar.



"You Chinese think of everything!"
"But I''m not Chinese!"
"Then you must have forgotten something!"
Knocker
16 years ago
Unfortuneately they seem to have picked up a text book on regeneration and inserted at least one item out of every chapter onto the site because they can, with little thought of the history of the site at all.
stuey
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16 years ago
Something needs to be done with it and I hope the headgear isn't too shot.

It's the sort of building that is owed a proper period restoration with no corners being cut. The money involved will without doubt be sufficient.

A good feature would be to have the shaft surrounded by a fence and meshed over so you could appreciate it's depth (lit up by a few bulbs powered by the fans). This would serve the purpose of ventilation (for Crofty) and probably be the most enjoyed feature by the younguns. Esp when pumping begins.

I hate stainless steel. It is the Vauxhall Nova of metals, having dastardly big sheets of it laser cut into the latest empowering, inclusive and diverse shapes looks crap and is crap. Stainless steel looks even more horrible with spray paint/tags.

I have a novel idea. I'm not sure if the local vermin would prove me right but it may hold more than romance. If you made the site look "proper" rather than "another council project" perhaps people would respect it a bit more. Very few people don't have some sort of pride and it extends a tad further than you think. I'd put money down and say that Camborne and 'Druth have a lot of proud people with things close to my own heart, it's a part of their identity. If it looks like "another load of regeneration crap" it will get trashed.

Just fix the thing up and let people come and have a look around. It doesn't need to be digitally enhanced or adorned with spangly sculptures....

That's enough, now I've thought of the sculptures and art student derived totem poles I've lost the will to type!
carnkie
16 years ago
"Roy Morton" wrote:


'There's a hole under Trelowarren Street in Camborne that you could fit Truro Cathedral into'



That one is probably quite true now. The council have been digging all over.
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
GolowDydh
16 years ago
Why in recent years do towns and cities need "gateways" and new "signature" buildings most of which are so lacking in local style if you were transported to them blindfolded when it was removed it you would have difficulty naming a place.
Most towns and cities have significant buildings that reflect the history of the place. Truro has almost managed to obliterate the fact it was a port, and most of the CPR plans I have seen appear to wish to expunge the mining past concentrating on the 20th century problems rather than celebrating the earlier glory.

"my experience of "Visioning" in the past has been planners telling the residents why their already fully developed vision is right or using leading questions which can only come to their foregone conclusion.

I wonder where the idea for what appears to be flat roofs on the drawings came from, our forefathers built em pitched for a reason. Do you think we should tell them we get a little more wind & rain than in London.
The past actually happened but history is only what someone wrote down
Dolcoathguy
16 years ago
In the future, you will be able join the larger traffic queue around Tuckingmill / pool to try to get to this place from the A30, as Highways will be re introducing Traffic lights at the A30 / Dundance lane junction ("phase 3 of the plan") - after removing them a decade ago to ease Traffic flow....all part of the RDA (or whoever it is) master plan.
Which reminds me, there is also a project to restore "original equipment" at Wheal harriet (100 yds down the road from me!)
have any further details been posted on the web yet?


Is it safe to come out of the bunker yet?
carnkie
16 years ago
"stuey" wrote:

Something needs to be done with it and I hope the headgear isn't too shot.

It's the sort of building that is owed a proper period restoration with no corners being cut. The money involved will without doubt be sufficient.



This was in the summer.

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The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
spitfire
16 years ago
Ref: equipment at Harriots shaft.
I'm not sure on this but it could be the remains of the winder from North Roskear shaft (New Dolcoath) which is now dumped at Crofty is going back there. This when new worked on Harriots albeit with a single drum. There is also a German Cornish boiler at Crofty that came from Toldish mine
spitfire
justin
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16 years ago
sorry chaps a bit :offtopic: i know.......

I was driving from warrior to brea earlier in the week
noticed parallel tracks cut going up accross croft land
and on the other side of the road off towards where they
used to have the go kart place....
there were a load of bods there with what looked like a small
coring rig .......
Looked like they might have been doing road survey stuff ???

any ideas ???? :sneaky:
justin
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16 years ago
just had a nose at the pics on there web site

Assuming robinsons shaft isn't going to be capped......

which fecking idiot had the idea of plonking a water feature
there.....
still could come in handy for drowning CRaP regen &
councillors in...

concrete wellies await
scooptram
16 years ago
dont forget the new race track they are going to build from the roundabout to tescos junction (400 yds of duel carage way!) :confused:

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