Brightraven
7 years ago
Hello all,

Not having much luck with this site although I have to blame myself. I wrote a long missive today which I WANTED to send to ??? "New topic" (I suppose) and accidentally sent it to Nigel ??? :oops:Sorry Nigel. 😢. I can not find it so am unable to re-send it. I did it on the fly so to speak so have no copy. I was counting on having a copy here!

I shall keep it smaller this time. Since 22nd July 1993 I have spent much time and effort (As well as money!) in learning how to dowse and researching the history of areas involved and the tunnels that I have dowsed which are written of and yet not acknowledged by academics. In fact they simply ignore them. They are too busy (I know) and simply have no time to wander from their remit.

It has been an extremely interesting research for me and I would like to send some of it to here. I have written quite a bit on other sites. Search for "Brightraven/Brightraven94" and you should find some of it).

This is a small test to check that I am doing this correctly (Hopefully I am). I go by the nom de plume Brightraven, my name and yet not my name. (A literal translation of it). Strangely, the main object of my research has not so slowly encompassed a part history of the Roman Catholic Church. Nothing sinister, merely strange!

ANY acknowledgement of my intentions to publish on here will encourage me to write more. I may write anyway as I enjoy doing it! Hopefully I am doing this correctly and this appears on here (?) as it should(I hope!). Brightraven94atHotmail.com will always reach me. Thank you, Jeff.
Brightraven
legendrider
7 years ago
Welcome to AditNow; sounds like you've stumbled into the pitfall of writing a long text which then times-out, then appears to have been posted but which just evaporates. CTRL+A, CTRL+C to save a copy as you go!

Or, type offline and copy/paste into post

MARK
festina lente[i]
Brightraven
7 years ago
Thank you for the comment Mark, However, I believe that it was entirely my fault as I accidentally sent it to another chap (Nigel, the rest I forget) although I did not get a reply. If you think that I timed out you must have changed things since I left a while ago as I tend to type for a long time and have never knowingly been timed out on here before. I used to write in Word or some such and save my work but now less so. I WAS thinking of doing so again so I will then have my own copy. I shall have to do so in future. Thanks again, Jeff.
Brightraven
royfellows
7 years ago
If you loose something, just use the 'back' button or arrow or whatever in your browser.
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7 years ago
I've dowsed water pipes with success and had mixed results dowsing for 'passages' - ie some results proven through exploration but mostly unconfirmed theories!
Brightraven
7 years ago
If I have placed this in the wrong place, can someone tell me how to put it elsewhere. Thank you. Jeff.

2.Dowsing graves and cemeteries.
When I began dowsing all those years ago (1993) I was interested in dowsing historic sites and the like and it was only later that I tried dowsing for pipes and the like. As I became more proficient, I specialized in what might lie underground and began dowsing for graves. This was easier than I had thought. I had regularly visit\ed cemeteries, OLD ones rather than new ones which I kept away from. I discovered graves more by accident than design. I well recall the very first cemetery that I dowsed over 25 years ago. It was in St Aidan's church in Bamburgh. Founded around 635 A.D.
I visited this site on every holiday we had for over 25 odd years. I spent many, many hours dowsing this and the surrounding area and as we holidayed there every year it was handy and I came to know it well.
Walking among the gravestones, I had long read and seen many of these before. They generally gave names and dates, some centuries old. However, this time, on a whim, I decided to try dowsing around the gravestones as I had my dowsing rods with me. I carried them throughout my research and once I began to understand what the movements meant, I got better and better at "reading sign". Old graves are no longer "mounds" as in old graves and most these days are flat and grassed over to allow lawn mowers access to the entire area. All relatives would have died many centuries ago. These days one sees people walking all over grave sites especially to read the grave stones. I prefer not to walk on any type out of respect but do not need to anyway as my target is the edges of the grave itself.
On the first occasion, I held my "L" rods up in the position (Like a cowboy in a western holding them pointing straight out) and walked toward a solitary grave. Before I got to it the rods moved across my chest and formed a line which apparently corresponded with the edge of the grave. I turned sideways and walked along the long side of the grave and the rod (I only needed to use one. I am left-handed but can dowse equally well with either hand) turned to the left where I assumed the foot of the grave was. It turned again about 3 ft from the corner and pointed toward the top of the grave. As I approached the top of the grave, It turned again and crossed over the grave INSIDE the stone's position and I came back to where I had started. I had a roughly 6ft x 3ft "oblong" site "marked" where I had walked! I KNEW that this must be the hole itself. I was very excited as this seemed to prove that the rods could and did find and mark a grave. The grave pointed E-W, the standard orientation for a christian burial. This was referencing the rising Sun. At one time ALL new churches had the congregation facing the Sun Inside an old church (And modern one too, but not always) The priest would face west toward the congregation who always faced the Sun. The priest would eventually turn his back on the congregation and face the Sun. In modern times, the pope stopped this (Mainly). It was apparently pagan in origin.
If one goes to a place not known, then a tourist can look at the cemetery and figure out which way the gravestones are pointing and be able to tell East from West. Over the intervening years I have dowsed many grave sites and actually discovered several "cemeteries", perhaps 15 or so, some of which are known of, others not. Corbridge in Northumberland was a good dowse. I dowsed many "graves" outside the church itself (Holy Cross? It was a long time ago) and followed them across the road into the Public House opposite where I found that they actually continued inside and headed farther away from the church.
Now, the strange bit. Many of the grave sites that I later found were oriented "North-South" and NOT the usual "East-West". I was able to find evidence that some people know about these sites but am unaware that the archaeologists are familar with them. I had put a lot of effort into dowsing these sites. It was well worth it though. I had not envisioned that I would discover ancient graves\cemeteries. One favourite site in this respect was found by myself again incidentally. I was tracking a tunnel from St Aidan's church in Bamburgh and had tracked it West and followed it "through" the vicar's house that lies some distance to the East from the church. I followed it across the road and up the drive of a bungalow. I knocked on the door and a lady shouted "I am in the back garden" so I walked down the side and met her in the back garden.
I told her what I was doing and she was extremely interested. Most people are I have found. How many times would you come across a chap “dowsing for graves” or anything else come to that. Following the dowse into her back garden, I immediately noticed a VERY large building that looked rather like an old monastery. The rods were pointing directly at a large window on the side wall. Immediately beneath the window where the rods were pointing directly at it was a distinct area that looked like fresh pointing. It covered the width of the dowse. I look for signs like that as I dowse. Many of my dowses show signs of collapse which have been pointed, a dead giveaway of a tunnel beneath! I have found MANY sites which show similar evidence of collapse. No-one would look twice at such sign. I do. I have a good few photographs of such signs.
I dowsed all around the old Monastery, which is in “Dugdale’s Monasticon” (Look it up if you are interested) and actually dowsed over some “grave” sites in the car park! Again, East-West orientation). I later spoke to a resident of the old monastery, now a housing renovation, and told him of my find and he told me that archaeologists had dug the area up some time before and discovered several skeletons! I am xpretty surex that these would have been of monks who had died and were buried there. There was NO evidence of a burial of any kind.
I have evidence of such sites in my home town of Newcastle. Obviously, in olden times, incumbents of ALL nunneries\monasteries eventually died and would be buried outside in suitable sites. If one goes to such sites then it is apparent that such “graves” would be found. Some of the grave sites that I have found were close to religious sites. In the local Bishop’s “House” I was given permission to dowse around in the garden and found “graves” outside the house and garden (Large property) near a well-known ancient row of trees. I followed them out of the wooded area where they were and into the Bishop’s garden. They were still going until I reached the “House”. I was rather perturbed to find in one spot in this “cemetery” a surprise. Although many of the graves there were around 6’x 3’, I found one that was much smaller, maybe half size. I realised with a bit of a start that this must be the grave site of a small child. I have not told many of this find as I felt a little protective of it, but time goes on and it must be centuries old. A church was said to be on that site. No doubt there are many burials too.

2.Dowsing graves and cemeteries.


Brightraven
ttxela
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7 years ago
Used to see guys dowsing on site for buried services quite a lot. Hadn't seen it for ages but then the other day noticed one of the ground workers at our new factory site walking along with dowsing rods looking for a drain.
Roger L
7 years ago
I use rods for dowsing for water and pipes. For mining I use a stone on a chain, sometimes with a rod for pointing. (An old Ariel off a radio. small and will extend). I have found adits and shafts using this method, also the extent of underground workings. Using the stone you can find the edges of a shaft. Once when I had no stone I found what appeared to be a brick shaft and used a camera on a cord to dowse it and it worked. You can always check by moving away check adjacent ground which would show a negative response.
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simonrail
7 years ago
I once dowsed with metal rods for a lead vein and much to my surprise found it on each of several attempts.

However, there are several maps I know of compiled in 1988 of stratified ironstone mine workings mapped by dowsing in North Yorkshire. Unfortunately in recent years some of those workings became accessible and have been mapped and compared with the 'dowsed' map; the latter can only be described as a figment of an enthusiasts imagination.

Dowsing can undoubtedly work but needs checking by excavation or similar to prove what has actually been found otherwise the imagination might be running away.


Yes, I'll have it - what is it?
Jim MacPherson
7 years ago
I did some dowsing at Ironbridge in the mid-1980's and it did match the likely route of water culverts between the forge dams (the grant didn't cover JCB hire), so I am at least agnostic.

Jim

Caleb Wade consummate and well-referenced work;

https://www.nmrs.org.uk/assets/pdf/T/T-V1N1-12-22-divining.pdf 
ChrisJC
7 years ago
I don't believe it. Until somebody can give positive results with a genuine blind test, it will remain in the category of 'fantasy'.

Chris.
sinker
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7 years ago
"ChrisJC" wrote:

I don't believe it. Until somebody can give positive results with a genuine blind test, it will remain in the category of 'fantasy'.

Chris.



I blind tested my kids a few years ago, finding a buried water main with dowsing rods and it does work. I didn't video it or send it for peer review so it's still anecdotal ;)


Yma O Hyd....
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7 years ago
Double blind test.

Lozz.
trebor
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7 years ago
What power source moves the rods ?
rufenig
7 years ago
"trebor" wrote:

What power source moves the rods ?



"Trans-perambulation of pseudo-cosmic anti-matter."[i] :thumbup:
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7 years ago
"rufenig" wrote:

"trebor" wrote:

What power source moves the rods ?



"Trans-perambulation of pseudo-cosmic anti-matter."[i] :thumbup:



Or the force field generated by one's own sense of smug self importance.... ;)



Yma O Hyd....
trebor
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7 years ago
Just Googled, Smithsonian institute class divining along with Paranormal activities, they have a million dollars for the first person who can prove it works.
Roy Morton
7 years ago
Saw a foreman on a construction site looking for a water pipe and traced it to the bank of a small brook. I looked on sceptical as F**! while a gorilla with a shovel started laying into the dirt.
Ten minutes later he was down a couple of feet and no sign.
I checked again a little while later and there was the pipe and another guy working on it.
Strange stuff indeed :confused:
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"But I''m not Chinese!"
"Then you must have forgotten something!"
Roger L
7 years ago
I went on a building site where the builders were looking for the drain run from a gully at the corner of a building. One side the land rose at about 15/20 degrees the other side ran down so the builders had dug on the down side but could find no drain. I straightened two wall ties and dowsed the up hill side and found the drain which ran towards a high wall. we sent the builders to the other side of the wall which was a rough road and in this was a manhole to which the drain run.

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royfellows
7 years ago
Worth a read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing 
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