You'll struggle to find an FR slate waggon Vanoord. There are many different types - 2 ton and 3 ton varieties, wood and steel and all from different builders!

Right, here are some pics that I took around work today in my lunch break - sorry the quality is naff but I'll replace them when I get a proper camera!

Type: FR 2 Ton Slate Wagon
Use: Carriage of finished roofing slates

Location: Festiniog Railway
Notes: Note the coloured markings to indicate which quarry they were assigned to.
Photograph by: Merddinemrys

Braked and unbraked examples:

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-19-Image-014/[/img]

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-19-Image-015/[/img]

Type: FR 3 Ton Slate Wagon converted for Granite Traffic
Use: Carriage of granite chippings from Groby Granite Quarry

Location: Festiniog Railway
Photograph by: Merddinemrys

Braked and unbraked and unbraked varieties:

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-19-Image-017/[/img]

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-19-Image-018/[/img]

Type: Penrhyn Quarry Railway Open Fullersite Wagon
Use: Carriage of Fullersite

Location: Festiniog Railway
Photograph by: Merddinemrys

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-19-Image-016/[/img]

Type: Curtis and Harvey Gunpowder Van
Use: Used to carry gunpowder to the quarries in Blaenau. The only private owner vehicles used on the FR as the slate wagons were railway owned and leased by the quarries.

Location: Festiniog Railway
Photograph by: Merddinemrys

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-19-Image-019/[/img]

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Type Coal wagon
Use Transport of coal via shafts to surface
Construction Metal hopper and axles. Wooden Chassis. Hopper is 3' x 2' x 2'.
Notes Short in length in order to fit a narrow shaft. Used around the Black country.
Photo Barney.


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Type Slab wagon
Use Precise detail unknown. Black country coal and iron industry
Construction Metal wheels and axles. Wooden chassis.
Notes Uses for this wagon are unclear.
Photo Barney


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Type Coal cutter
Use Cutting coal at the face
Construction Metal throughout
Notes The mechanism is adjustable so cutting can be done at varying angles. Powered (probably) by compressed air, electric version also.
Photo Barney, Black country drift mine

here are some talyllyn and corris examples
type talyllyn 2 bar slate wagon
[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-186-Image-007/[/img]

type Talyllyn 3 bar slate wagon
[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-186-Image-008/[/img]

type Talyllyn covered van.
use provisions and animals
[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-186-Image-009/[/img]

type Aberllefenni tie rod wagon
[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-186-Image-010/[/img]
more will follow form these two areas when i find the rest of the photos
Thorpey

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bryneglwys rubish wagon
[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Bryneglwys-Slate-Mine-2-User-Album-Image-049/[/img]

bryneglwys slab wagon
[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Bryneglwys-Slate-Mine-2-User-Album-Image-048/[/img]

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[[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-4-Image-033/[/img]
Barney

Type Rock drill
Use Boring shot holes?
Construction Metal throughout
Notes The mechanism is adjustable so drilling can be done at varying angles. Power scource is unclear (help anyone)?
Photo Barney, Black country drift mine


Are there any remains of the Black Country mines still accessible
(apart from the Black Country Museum) ?


🙂

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padarn railway transporter wagon

carrying three slate wagons and a perminantly fitted brake van

[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-186-Image-011/[/img]

bryneglwys slab wagon

in narrow gauge railway museum Tywyn
[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-186-Image-012/[/img]

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Ta Thorpey... I shall have to spend a evening collating all these ones: I'm getting a bit behind! :flowers:

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Are there any remains of the Black Country mines still accessible
(apart from the Black Country Museum) ?

Hopefully this wiil answer your question! http://www.aditnow.co.uk/community/viewtopic.aspx?t=157 

Type incline balance wagon
Use kept full of stone to counteract table wagon on incline
Construction Metal wheels and axles. Wooden chassis. Wooden body
Notes This is from the incline directly behind the mine workshop was at gelerts farm now on the Talyllyn Railway Still with cable attached.
Photo Thorpey
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Thorpey

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[[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-4-Image-033/[/img]
Barney

Type Rock drill
Use Boring shot holes?
Construction Metal throughout
Notes The mechanism is adjustable so drilling can be done at varying angles. Power scource is unclear (help anyone)?
Photo Barney, Black country drift mine


Are there any remains of the Black Country mines still accessible
(apart from the Black Country Museum) ?


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It's a Siskol coal cutter, not a borer. This one is (I think) the compressed air version but they also came in electric flavour.
The cutter end recipricated & rotated, & the whole thing pivots round the upright (jacked tight between roof & floor). They produced a series of "fan shaped" cuts, usually for undercutting.

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It's a Siskol coal cutter, not a borer. This one is (I think) the compressed air version but they also came in electric flavour.
The cutter end recipricated & rotated, & the whole thing pivots round the upright (jacked tight between roof & floor). They produced a series of "fan shaped" cuts, usually for undercutting.

Thank you, post updated with correct info

Mr.C. what date/period was the Siskol in use? Any other information, please.

Saw a similar thing in a local coal mine but without wheels.... made by Cincinnati and very old by that point..... That too was pinned the same way and made sweeping cuts across the face. I was told they dated from the 1930's, these were still in use in a small private coal mine near me in the 80's for certain. Electric powered.

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Saw a similar thing in a local coal mine but without wheels.... made by Cincinnati and very old by that point..... That too was pinned the same way and made sweeping cuts across the face. I was told they dated from the 1930's, these were still in use in a small private coal mine near me in the 80's for certain. Electric powered.

Cincinnati bought/merged with/were took over by H.M.E. (H.... Mason Edwards) sometime in the 30's or 40's I believe.

I used to work in a press shop. All our power presses pre 1920 were HME. all the 1930's and 40's one's bore both the HME name and Cincinnati.
The rest were either Rhodes or Mabu.

Found a picture of the rear of the Cincinatti icoal cutter in Amber Colliery in place/use. Looks like an updated version of the other one bar the wheels with the addition of an elec motor. This was the late 80's
[img]http://www.aditnow.co.uk/showimage?f=/community/Personal-Album-856-Image-022/[/img]

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Mr.C. what date/period was the Siskol in use? Any other information, please.

Certainly in use in the '30's, as my paternal grandfather was a "Siskol kicker" in Talke North Pit then.
The earlyist photo I can find is in the 1913 ed of Practical Coal Mining Vol 11, but seems rather different from the one at the BCM.
The 1951 ed. of Coal-Mining by Statham shows one in use, & of couse as a previous post says, they would have continued in use in private mines, until they either wore out or were made illegal!
I'm not aware of any used round here (N.Staffs) recently in use (80's on) but some AB15's were still used for similar purposes I'm told.

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