As someone who has been exploring this mine for a long time I have been impressed both with the quality and
quantity of photos that have been posted on the site -it is very creditable.
However I have one question given that my modified plan is freely available why do so many photographs not state which part of the Flat or Vein it is taken of?

Thats a good point John
Not that I take "good" photos but my tendancy is to not bother too much if its a well known place, but if its off beaten track to add some description. This not necessarily Smallcleugh or even Nent, but in a general sense.
As an aside John, if you want to see good photos, check out the various photo competition entries.

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I suspect a lot of people use the 'batch' upload and then just never get around to adding titles and descriptions.

I suspect a lot of people use the 'batch' upload and then just never get around to adding titles and descriptions.

I am a culprit of this. I will take photos and batch upload them or simply take so long in doing so i forget where i took them 😞

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Looking through mine I've probably put a description on over 50% of them but admittedly not on all of them. I do try to put at the very least a basic description on my photos when I notice any without but I suspect that I still have a lot on here generally that are currently without descriptions.

The batch upload feature may be one of the reasons I haven't put descriptions on all of them but I suspect bone-idleness plays a far greater role.

I used to label them up when I first started uploading, but when the numbers ramp up it started getting tedious to do.

No offense Simon, but the system to label them up once you have done a batch upload is slow and takes time to do.

If it was possible to have a description text box on each thumbnail and be able to do a rename once they have been filled in, in one hit then.....

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NPHT have a large commercial archaeology department here at Nenthead Mines.
We are looking, with them, at how we can properly record the underground workings and artifacts. This can best be done by the mine explorers taking photographs for us, and by archiving a photographic record. Each photograph should have something of scale in it - a person, a ruler, a pen, a coin - all of these are recognised methods. The location of each photograph should also be accurately recorded along with the direction of the view and the date it was taken.
We are hoping to find some funding to begin this process

Oh....forgot to add. Yes the quality of the photographs is excellent.
We ought to have a small exhibition of them here at Nenthead for the public to see.

I used to label them up when I first started uploading, but when the numbers ramp up it started getting tedious to do.

No offense Simon, but the system to label them up once you have done a batch upload is slow and takes time to do.

If it was possible to have a description text box on each thumbnail and be able to do a rename once they have been filled in, in one hit then.....

None taken!

The batch upload was in response to a request for the feature. I had a limited time to write it so it's fairly simple.

I suspect that if the batch uploaded insisted on a name and description before it would upload then a lot of pictures called '1', '2', '3' etc. would appear. Or that far fewer photos would be uploaded!

On the cards for a re-write of the batch upload is a confirmation page that photo by photo steps you through the photos in the batch asking for names and descriptions, and then on submit takes you to the next one in the sequence.

What I do at the moment is upload a batch, then go to the album showing the thumbnails, then Ctrl+Click the 'edit' button against each photo I want to caption. I then get each photo for editing in a new browser tab and add the name and description, click submit and then close the tab.

Easy peasy! And no need to keep going back to the album to open the next one.

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Even with a map, not everyone knows where they are all the time. Sometimes no description might be better than an erroneous one. With no process of peer review incorrect descriptions will become fact.

(I won't divert this thread, but I've been meaning to start one along the lines of "Is the internet the right place to record history. Discuss.")

Very recently there's been an example of a mine being incorrectly identified. Any search on the internet now brings up the wrong location entirely. Not on this forum I might add.

(I won't divert this thread, but I've been meaning to start one along the lines of "Is the internet the right place to record history. Discuss.")

To play Devils advocate?

1. Is there a reason to believe just because its printed in a book it isn’t going to be a load of old tosh?

2. The internet isn’t a fad & it ain’t going away, quite the opposite. Its rapidly eating up all other forms of media and anyone who thinks they can ignore it in the long term is kidding themselves.
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As others have rightly stated, when you do finally get round to uploading several photos, using the batch uploader to save time, usually late at night when time permits, you do have to consiously spend some time entering a description or name/description to each .

This is of course assuming the photographer does actually know just where in the mine he/she is. Many of us explore mines "out of area" where we might not know the names of the levels, flats, stopes,shafts etc, in this case you would have to look at other photographs for help with your descriptions, assuming they are indeed correct.

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Internet and recording history, a passing thought.

Publish a load of old tosh in a book and you have to live with it, upload a load of old tosh to a website and you can go in and correct it before the world gets to read it.
😉

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Further and further away from the topic in hand...
Given the take up of devices like the iPad and Kindle sales of digital books will presumably overtake printed books in a very short space of time much as MP3s have CDs.
In the event that the software can be updated like any other software (& bar end user choice I can't see why it couldn't) then writers of the future may well be able to update their books even whilst you're reading them which could be both useful & completely bloody irritating!

Back on topic - edited my SC pics bar one of a bit of horse level the location of which could be anywhere north of Skipton & a tub which might actually be in Caplecleugh but I can't quite remember exactly where it is!

1. Is there a reason to believe just because its printed in a book it isn’t going to be a load of old tosh?

2. The internet isn’t a fad & it ain’t going away, quite the opposite. Its rapidly eating up all other forms of media and anyone who thinks they can ignore it in the long term is kidding themselves.

Just to keep this thread off topic....

1. No reason at all. It's just that very few people get books published. Millions publish information on the net.

2. It isn't whether the net will keep going, it's whether information on it will. For example, here's a link to an interesting little site on Yorkshire follies:

http://www.follytowers.com/yorkshire.html 

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1. Is there a reason to believe just because its printed in a book it isn’t going to be a load of old tosh?

2. The internet isn’t a fad & it ain’t going away, quite the opposite. Its rapidly eating up all other forms of media and anyone who thinks they can ignore it in the long term is kidding themselves.

Just to keep this thread off topic....

1. No reason at all. It's just that very few people get books published. Millions publish information on the net.

2. It isn't whether the net will keep going, it's whether information on it will. For example, here's a link to an interesting little site on Yorkshire follies:

http://www.follytowers.com/yorkshire.html 

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Ah well, some of us site administrators take the responsibilies of running web sites pretty seriously. I could save myself about a grand and a half (and several weeks work) a year if I switched off AditNow. But I will never, ever, do that because I like running it, I like meeting all the people through it, I learn a load of stuff about something that really fascinates me; and because I take the responsibility of the countless hours many people spend contributing to this site rather seriously. I hope it lasts as long as I do.

The only thing I hope for in return it that it gets used and that people keep contributing and finding it useful.

Seeing the library of photographs build up, and the collective pool of knowledge on the forum is what it's about.

Seeing it run long term is my responsibility.

For sites that do fall by the wayside there's always the wayback machine. Not ideal, but useful from time to time: http://web.archive.org/web/20080619223932/http://www.follytowers.com/yorkshire.html 

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Perhaps those who find it time-consuming and a trouble putting informative captions to their photos now appreciate all the effort and work put into writing books where leaving out captions isn't really a realistic option if you want to publish a book worth buying.

This might sound controversial - how about a simple rule of thumb? Never upload more pictures than you are prepared to sit down and write captions for?

I really appreciate the comments mine explorers have made in reply to my posting.
I think that in a large underground area like Smallcleugh, (it really is both a mine and a drawing level),the photos may have toe grouped in some way.eg the ventilation door,the Incline flats,Smallcleugh Main level, the Flat Cross cut,Hethrington's Flat,Middlecleugh 1st Sun vein etc i could go on and on.My concern is not to stifle the photos they are excellent but to have some sort of order so that they keep on coming but it does not take a day to trawl through so many! Another thought I believe that the the locations of Newspaper bits must be kept secret otherwise they might move!,