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ebgb
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10 years ago

just a head's up for any one thinking of a look in. The level before the winder in rake level that leads to the big BSC stopes, a major and active fall has blocked this now. Noticed some fresh blocks down in a few other places as well.

summat's a rumbling up there so proceed with caution

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Horsemaddad
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10 years ago

Shan't be digging THAT ONE out!

Colin

ebgb
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10 years ago

at the minute it would be diggable Col, but it was still dribbling. Be beyond hope shortly if not already. Some muckle big buggers falling in on the way down the main level as well

http://bf494.co.uk

legendrider
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10 years ago

I'll be happy to let someone else think about digging there. Rake Level has been deteriorating more and more rapidly, and even if the fall can be letterboxed, the surrounding timbering is probably also ready to let go. We already have seen Extreme Spiling on the way into that branch, things were iffy there even when the mine was working!

sic transit Gloria mundi :(

MARK

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Horsemaddad
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10 years ago

My point exactly Mark(s)!
The rest of it is so dire, you wouldn't know where to start!
Reminds me of my days gap walling on the farms around Skipton - you'd end up with a nice straight repaired section but the rest of the wall would just be bidding it's time and you knew you'd be called back again very soon!
Col.

Colin

ebgb
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10 years ago

looking on the fell top there's some big holes on the move up there as well. I think it might just be time to say goodbye and let it go. Especially hearing what they were doing down below the months before they pulled out

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Horsemaddad
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10 years ago

Crikey, you're on the ball! I reckon you're right though Mark; the ground is a bit flakey - I guess it always was and all those mega detonations on the run up to closure that your neighbour was talking about won't have done anything to improve it! Col.

Colin

PeteJ
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10 years ago

Heard a rumble from above in that zone on 26th March.

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legendrider
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10 years ago

"PeteJ" wrote:
Heard a rumble from above in that zone on 26th March.

it was probably ebgb 😮

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John Lawson
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10 years ago

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Interestingly when I was underground here some 20 years ago, the company were taking spar from hoppers which had filled themselves over the years, presumably by bits of ore falling off the walls.
In other words this vein has always been moving. When the boards were in good nick it probably was not a problem,... But now?

moorlandmineral
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10 years ago

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"legendrider" wrote:
I'll be happy to let someone else think about digging there. Rake Level has been deteriorating more and more rapidly, and even if the fall can be letterboxed, the surrounding timbering is probably also ready to let go. We already have seen Extreme Spiling on the way into that branch, things were iffy there even when the mine was working!

sic transit Gloria mundi :(

MARK

Has anyone taken a picture of it?

ebgb
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10 years ago

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indeed. I shall see if I can borrow the pic.

I tend not to rumble upstairs in their, although my arse does squeak now and again

speaking to my neighbour who worked there, they had a phenomenon they called slippy spar, where it would slide off in great slabs from the wall

did you get into the BSC stopes Pete? They're the ones down the right hand branch maybe 50 or 60 yards before the winder.

be nice to put an accurate date on it

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colin567
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10 years ago

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I have just uploaded a picture that may have been the way into the BSC stopes. It did not go very far, large collapse at the end and an interesting wide vein of massive fluorite in the left hand wall. Pete and I were in on 26th February and very pleased to be out again. The stopes up the rises from the decline were all collapsed with very fractured fluorite and debri in them.
Not my best picture I am afraid, it was the first outing with the 'Big Job' and hand held, but it sounds like it might the the last one!

poosticker83
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10 years ago

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according to a few of the old boys from the last shifts (mates with mr W) have told me out right, dont go in, obviously way to late, as they shot and recovered almost every pillar on their way out. They wanted it to run in.

Crying shame though, another big local mine on its way to history and obscurity.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don''''''''t.

legendrider
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10 years ago

#15

Nice one Colin567. This is the short 'branch' on the right just before the decline, and is in the same vein (literally & figuratively!), both roof and floor protesting!

This 'branch' was originally Rake Level which continued NE, parts of which can still be seen by climbing the ladder rise from the decline.

Col H has some good photos of the collapsed level (pre-collapse) which I can upload from the stick if that's OK?

MARK

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Horsemaddad
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10 years ago

#16

Absolutely Mark! Feel free to go ahead. I suppose it doesn't matter now. Really glad I took all those hundereds of photos over the last 18 months - it felt like my second home!
Col.

Colin

Horsemaddad
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10 years ago

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Colin567, I'm pretty sure this isn't the cross cut that leads into the big BSC stope. From memory it looks like one of the other right hand branches in this area.
There are three between the 'wet shaft' down to the foot of the Firestone Dib and the Rake level decline - one ends after a short distance with much water drumming on plastic sheet, one ends as shown in the photo and the other (which led to the stopes) runs for about 50 yards with a few twists and turns before meeting the vein at right angles.
Col.

Colin

legendrider
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10 years ago

#18

"Horsemaddad" wrote:
it felt like my second home!
Col.

well, there's a bit of ceiling I think you should have a look at.... :lol:

MARK

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ebgb
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10 years ago

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That's the collapse on the branch that led to the BSC stopes off Rake Level. The run of collapse was maybe 20' with just a wee letterbox left open, but dribbling still and some massiv boulders choked between arching and pushing them apart.

we had a quick dive in there last night. I would not advise anyone to go down the wet shaft/gary bellamy's rise.

things are on the move everywhere down there.

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legendrider
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10 years ago

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thanks for posting the pic, Mark.

Shame the Stope with the rails in it is now inaccessible.

would you be able to post here your account of the scary stuff you experienced last night? I'm sure that enquiring minds would want to know...

MARK

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