We need to decide who the profits from the calendar go to this year. As previous years it'll be a case of every penny of profit (sale - print cost - PayPal fees - postage cost) going to whoever the decision is that it should go to.

Any ideas?

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Regarding the profits. How about splitting it in two, like last year. Again, half going to a mine restoration project, other half going to a mine rescue organisation?

Just thought this thread needed bumping up as no one has made any suggestions!

There's been no input yet :(

Although, please bear with us for a few days, because Vanoord's discussing something with somebody at the moment.

Whatever happens it will be done as a fund raiser for somebody again this year.

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A 50/50 split between a restoration project and a mine rescue organisation sounds good as we all like going under ground and we also like to know if the sh*!e hits the fan and if needed there is a system in place to help.

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:angel: looking Vanoord-wards for an update on this :lol:

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The profits of the 2011 calendar will go to... the Cwmorthin steel fund.

This is slightly dependent on the landowner's permission, but the rough outline is this:

All funds from the calendar, plus anything else that gets added at a later date, will be used directly to buy steel.

That steel will be welded up into a framework to support the Lake Level adit at Cwmorthin and then used to progressively replace the timbering.

The current plan is to build a series of identical sections which can be bolted/welded together and can be used in a manner not dissimilar to shield tunneling, ie starting just inside the gate and then working inbye from there.

The design hasn't been fully worked out yet, but some form of ladder-frame is the basic idea, with sections small enough to be easily transported - but then firmly connected together in order to ensure that the loading is spread as much as possible.

The potential problem here is that the landowner's permission is required, however I don't anticipate having the steel welded up until spring, so there is plenty of time for discussions with FoC and if need be, installation can be held over until the right time.

In the circumstances that the project does not go ahead, the proceeds will go to a similar cause elsewhere: it's not planned to buy the steel or fabricate it until the landowner is happy to have it installed.

The target is to raise about £500 initially and once we've worked up a design, I'll post up how much that's likely to buy.

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The profits of the 2011 calendar will go to... the Cwmorthin steel fund.

No donation to a cave/mine rescue organisation this year? 😞

No donation to a cave/mine rescue organisation this year? 😞

I did ask, over a month ago. I'm afraid nobody put forward any recommendations :(

I do appreciate that one or two people might object on the basis that it is a mine that has been supported before. But given the likelihood of much reduced calendar sales if nothing was suggested as a beneficiary, and then splitting this in two further reduces any good that the cash can do. And we do run the calendar firmly as a fund raiser. It's never been a case of if there's anything left in the pot it would go to x, y or z; it's always a fully accountable project intended to raise as much as it can for the cause(s) suggested.

This year nobody suggested anything.

Vanoord has talked this through with the controlling group, and it seems worth doing. There can't be many folk on here and other sites who haven't visited Cwmorthin or who don't intend to. And if enough calendars sell (I'd like to aim for the 100 we sold the year before last and the year before that - last year was down a bit), then it'll go a long way to helping putting something in that might last 50 years or more.

Vanoord's being a bit modest in his post. He's basically offering to take the calendar proceeds and source steel through his business at cost (i.e. more steel) and deliver it all welded up. Which is rather good of him.

There obviously is the proviso about permission; but in the unlikely event of it not being possible the money can sit in the account until it can be used for a different nominated cause(s) - but we'd cross that bridge later if we come to it.

For sure, next year it would be nice to support something completely different. But when the post goes up saying "hey, who shall we give half a grand to" a few ideas would help!

I know people have strong feelings about cave rescue organisations* and to redress the balance we will be getting another batch of Underground Reflections printed before the end of the year will all proceeds to a CRO (to be decided).

* CROs supported to date: North Wales, Derbyshire, COMRU

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excellent idea wouldnt want to not be able to get in to Cwm :thumbsup:

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I'll second that- and thanks to Vanoord! :thumbup:

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no argument here happy to see any money thats left going to Cwm.

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