legendrider
10 years ago
That could be bad news.... like this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19169021 

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RJV
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10 years ago
It's not a fair comparison.

Most of Tyneside is already a ghost town... :tongue:
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exspelio
10 years ago
Now that would really make a ground source heat pump worthwhile!!!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.
Graigfawr
10 years ago
Coal tip fires can smolder for years. Tips adjacent to Brynlliw Colliery could be seen smoldering near the M4 between junctions 47 and 48 for over a decade.

Slow combustion with minimal oxygen turns the shales and mudstones that make up colliery tips turn red. Coal measure fossils within the rocks usually remain black however. Its a striking contrast in colour and makes plant leaf fossils very prominent - it was collecting 'red ash' fossils as a child that first introduced me to geology.
legendrider
10 years ago
reminds me of when I was a bairn, we used to go bottle-digging at a local ash dump which dated from WW1 era. The dump had been fired in the past, quite vigorously owing to the high carbon content, and many areas showed bright red/orange soil as a result. You could certainly tell when you were into undisturbed tip.

Maybe explains my fondness for ochre....::)

Used to find some lovely melted bottles, too, and a few heartbreakers!

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ttxela
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10 years ago
Doesn't the oil shale at Kimmeridge frequently catch fire also?
Morlock
10 years ago
exspelio
10 years ago
I grew up with burning pit tips, the "red shale" produced was an accepted surface for tennis courts.
Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.
Roy Morton
10 years ago
I used to do a lot of coarse fishing around Wigan, and one of the Flashes was surrounded with spoil. When fishing in the winter we would dig a hole into the bank and push a biscuit tin in. This would keep pies warm all day and dry your socks if they got wet :lol:
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AR
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The North Yorkshire alum shales burn too, though AFAIK they don't catch easily - they had to be slowly fired in large clamps as part of the extraction process leaving huge mounds of red shale. Much used for making trackways around Ravenscar, my parent's drive used to be surfaced with the stuff!
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All the original ornamental pathways at Wentworth Woodhouse were laid with pink shale from coking apparently. And the 'bike track' I used to use when I was a kid in Kimberworth, Rotherham adjacent to the 'Engine Pond' of Droppingwell Colliery was salmon-pink, in contrast to the blue-grey shale of the opencast spoil heaps nearby.
Roger L
10 years ago
Locally red ash was used under pavements. One council aloud it under over site concrete on houses, only to find it expanded and pushed floors up where sleeper walls had been built on it.
New houses where built on the old railway coal yards have had problems when having fires which has ignited the coal underneath.
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10 years ago
Don't say the I live on an old Coal yard!
Roger L
10 years ago
Do not have bonfires in your yard if there is chance of surface coal droppings. They are expensive to put out.
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Pinzgauer
10 years ago
I recommend the book "Fire Underground - The Ongoing Tragedy of the Centralia Mine Fire" by David DeKok

I was given this book as a present a couple of years ago. It gives a very detailed description on how it started - just one match! All the missed opportunities to get a grip on it. The money sidetracked and wasted in vain attempts to blat it.... etc. The details of the carbon monoxide and oxygen-methane monitors installed in some houses.

Tells it as it is !

ISBN 978-0-7627-5427-4 Published 2010. Globe Pequot Press. Guilford, Connecticut. USA
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In the early 1960's we used to skip school & go to where the red shale was being dug out at Lepton Edge Colliery. The Father of one of the other kids had the contract for this & had invested in a new "Case" tracked loading shovel. What an experience to be allowed on to the machine with the driver & dig out still burning red shale. The heat was terrific & the shale could only be loaded into steel bodied tippers, a rare sight in those days. The pit was still working & closed in 1964.
Regards, John...

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rufenig
10 years ago
Bersham tip apparently burnt for many years.
There was (prehaps still is) a plan to remove the tip to sell the shale.
My feeling is that the application was being manouvered to allow a housing estate build at the end of the project. That was where the profit was coming from. Planning difficulties and the economy seem to have stalled the project. This is a pity since there were plans for the mining museum and artefacts based on cash back from the extraction. :smartass:
Aditaddict
10 years ago
This one in Australia has been burning for 6000 years I have heard of one in Germany 4000 years
I read an article that said there are thousands of them and between them put 800 tons of mercury into the atmosphere every year



and this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_seam_fire 
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