Is "I'd like to know how hard going knee deep water is compared to walking on a solid surface" the only question here ?
Much !
This could be a very short thread :lol:

Well, it probably will be a short thread, but what do you think?

1 mile in neck deep water (ok, I know you'd be hard pressed to find a mile of neck deep water) = about the same as walking on a hard surface

1 mile in knee deep water = about 3 miles of walking on a hard surface

1 mile in knee deep water + hugely heavy kit bag = about 1,000 miles of walking on a hard surface :lol:

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I think a lot of it depends on how fast you try to walk, at a normal walking pace in knee deep water you soon feel knackered.

If you just have a gentle amble its not that tiring at all (just much much slower)


Of course bouncing around in neck deep water is fun, its just a shame there's never a poolside cocktail bar at the end.

It really depends on how fast the flow rate of the water is & of course if you going against the flow or with it, I assume the former if your going in, say a sough or similar.

I find knee deep water can be quite tiresome, especially in wellies, best done in boots really. I find water deeper say waist level to be easier as it seems to take some of the load off the legs.

In one level we do,of knee deep & waist deep water of 1.25miles in length it takes us 2hours going against the flow, but 40mins less on the return trip going with the flow, quite a difference.

You've got to be quite fit to tackle a mile, it's akin to walking up steep hill above ground.

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Really deep water (chest to neck), is slow going as you can't push yourself along that fast, also if you loose traction, you have to push along the wall or grab the wall to pull yourself along - last time I was pulling on a wall in Caplecleugh in really deep water I pulled out a bit of arching by accident 😮

And its such a pain to have to get out to climb over a fall, you feel so heavy and of course all that warm water gets drained away - usually a time to activate the in suit heating system !

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And its such a pain to have to get out to climb over a fall, you feel so heavy and of course all that warm water gets drained away

I find the real pain is when your boots and oversuit end up full of air and start floating above your head when you're trying to get back in after passing a fall!

usually a time to activate the in suit heating system !

A good reason to go first over collapses methinks :lol:

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And its such a pain to have to get out to climb over a fall, you feel so heavy and of course all that warm water gets drained away - usually a time to activate the in suit heating system !

Obligatory in cold water, the in suit heating system & doesn't it feel good!!for about 5 mins. 😉

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is this the same as walking in mud or more difficult and less fun 😮 🅱

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Less fun if what you're wading through is other people's pee!

is this the same as walking in mud or more difficult and less fun 😮 🅱

Wading through mud/water, hmmmmmm...........here's 2 examples, both lead mines in Wales:

One has an addit that you stomp along (1/2 a mile and its CBD!) not too tiring on the way in but a killer on the way out. T'other has about 50 or so yards of wading through CBD depth ocher (this has a consistency of cream cheese) taxing, but not too difficult- but then again you're constantly on the watch as you don't want to go plunging into it face first.

I find mine water amazing: the b*****ck reabsorbing coldness of nent, bluey-greens of welsh slate, differing consisitency, both underfoot and in ph of metal mines, I could go on for a long time......................

The way that I look at the situation practicaly is this: how effing cold am I going to be if I get a dunking?? I'm no lardy pie eater, infact the complete opposite - a racing snake, no insulation on my body - so its always dress accordingly - even if it means sweating yer nadgers off slogging up a hill in a wetsuit!!

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And its such a pain to have to get out to climb over a fall, you feel so heavy and of course all that warm water gets drained away

I find the real pain is when your boots and oversuit end up full of air and start floating above your head when you're trying to get back in after passing a fall!

usually a time to activate the in suit heating system !

A good reason to go first over collapses methinks :lol:

Obligatory in cold water, the in suit heating system & doesn't it feel good!!for about 5 mins. 😉

Oh yes, but it doesn't half wiff when you take your suit off :lol:

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Wiffs a bit too when you take your suit off :lol:

Especially if your dehydrated from the beer the night before !

Best bet to drink loads of water whilst in cold water for on going suit heating.

There are some that refuse to pee in their wetsuits, can't see the problem, when you are cold and you go its like someone pouring a hot kettle in - lovely!

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Oh, yes the wet suit definately whiffs a bit the next day, I usually put mine in the bath with some disinfectant in then leave it to dry in the shower, SWMBO does not like it, but it works.

I usually drink the water ahead of me in the sough trips as I go along, always have done, we have good quality mineral water in our mines> :lol:

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I don't know... drinking the water in front of you and polluting the water behind you :lol:

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Some of us more refined charters have to put up with this despicable behavior in front of us with no escape 😢

We stumbled upon some deep water this evening. I don't think the character who for the sake of his dignity shall remain nameless but may or may not have made the second post in this thread was trying to keep warm but I suspect a few drops may have sneaked out when he realised he had his all singing all dancing mobile phone in his pocket :oops:

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Apologies for the dodgy wobbly stone tripod effect.

Slogging through water below waist depth is hard work and similar to dragging a tyre behind you. A bit like athletes do to train for whatever sport involves dragging tyres around. Anyway, it all adds up to hard work on the legs and this can be compounded by a nice subsurface layer of ochre, ranging in consistency from tomato soup - easy to walk through - to Philadelphia Cheese which you dont walk through, but plunge your arms into and drag your carcass along behind; tough going with a foot of water on top of it and a bag full of kit.
As for the 'in-suit heating system' it's a must when when you've a mile of water between you and a quiet corner in a stope.
I've found it best to restrict this action to just liquid discharges though 😉

The pic below is three quarters of a mile in with a thick (2.5 feet) ochre layer below the water.

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he had his all singing all dancing mobile phone in his pocket :oops:

:stupid: Oh well, good excuse to buy a new even better one, or possibly just not bother at all as I can't remember the last time I ever phoned anyone on it. I'll give it a week to see if it dries out.