Peter Burgess
16 years ago
Do you, like me, lead groups of people from time to time around old mines and quarries? And do you get informed, as I do, with monotonous regularity that "people were shorter in those days"?

It doesn't annoy me, but I do get totally bemused by it. Having spent 5 minutes explaining carefully how the geology has determined the height of the passages, (in my case old quarry workings where the roof and floor stones provide the natural and obvious boundaries for extraction) I then have it explained back to me that maybe the passages are only 5 ft high because 'people were shorter in those days'.

Maybe all your mines are big and spacious. Maybe I'm just no good at getting the message across.

And, were people really so much shorter in those days? Maybe they were! And if so, by how much?
carnkie
16 years ago
Perhaps the idea thar people were vertically challenged many years ago is a myth.

[url]http://medievalnews.blogspot.com/2007/05/height-of-people-during-middle-ages.html[url]
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
Peter Burgess
16 years ago
I'll just correct that so I can see what it links to!

"carnkie" wrote:

Perhaps the idea thar people were vertically challenged many years ago is a myth.

http://medievalnews.blogspot.com/2007/05/height-of-people-during-middle-ages.html 

Peter Burgess
16 years ago
That's what I thought. I blame the guides on HMS Victory!

As an aside, I love the wording of one of the links that pops up in the right hand column of that page!

"Increase Height
Grow 2-6 inches taller in 21 days."


carnkie
16 years ago
Sorry about that. Don't know what's happening. Did the usual copy/paste/highlight/url and you saw the results. It doesn't put the first [url] in.
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
carnkie
16 years ago
Help!!!!
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
Peter Burgess
16 years ago
"carnkie" wrote:

Help!!!!



If you click "quote" on my correction post you can see what it should look like.
sparty_lea
16 years ago
"carnkie" wrote:

Help!!!!


Are you using firefox Carnkie?
I find the highlight thing doesnt work with firefox and I have to paste the url in then go back and put the url and /url in square brackets manually either side of it.
There are 10 types of people in the world.

Those that understand binary and those that do not!
carnkie
16 years ago
Yes I've just changed to Firefox Sparty. You are right it doesn't. I'll try your method.

Edit.
That doesn't seem to work either. Just got my signature in red. I then missed that out and got the IP. adress which didn't exist. Time for a drink.
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
JR
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16 years ago
Well two well documented historical figures (Abraham Lincon @ 6 ft 4 ins. and Oscar Wilde @ 6ft. 3 ins. (source http://notmuchfits.co.uk/2005/05/21/tall-people-on-tv/  here ).
I suppose it can be argued that the two cited where well nourished, wealthy men. So I did a quick Google and came up with this site
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question53664.html . Briefly this says that "..... based on skeletal data from 30 previous studies, reveals that men living during the 9th to 11th centuries had an average height of about 5 feet 8 inches." but by the 17th to18th century the average had gone down to 5 ft. 51/2 rising in the 19th. century but not reaching 11th. century levels until the 20th. century.

sleep is a caffeine deficiency.
JR
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16 years ago
..... I've always copied a url then click "URL" paste then "URL" again in Firefox. I've honestly assumed this is what one does ! Sorry Carnkie I didn't intend for you to fall on your a%#$ the first time you used Firefox.

:oops:
sleep is a caffeine deficiency.
carnkie
16 years ago
Not a problem. That's fine. You certainly get some wonderful results the other way. I'm not sure why it didn't work the way Sparty suggested. Still, I don't think I'll worry about that.
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
JR
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16 years ago
"carnkie" wrote:

Not a problem. That's fine. You certainly get some wonderful results the other way. I'm not sure why it didn't work the way Sparty suggested. Still, I don't think I'll worry about that.



Nice of you to say so. Unfortunately I've tried to edit a faulty link twice now and failed miserably. Bear with me (mutters under breath "I wull not be beaten by a crummy bit of html"
sleep is a caffeine deficiency.
Peter Burgess
16 years ago
sparty_lea
16 years ago
I dont think you'll manage to edit Carnkie's link the url has been truncated.
There are 10 types of people in the world.

Those that understand binary and those that do not!
Peter Burgess
16 years ago
Peter Burgess
16 years ago
That link now give an advert on the right for a business that claims to be

"The most experienced exhumation company in the UK "

😮
sparty_lea
16 years ago
"Peter Burgess" wrote:

:offtopic:


Oops sorry Peter

...back to the subject

Looking at the size of the clothing that I've seen in museums (not just suits of armour) I'd certainly got the impression that people must have been a bit shorter in Victorian times. Never looked into it scientifically though.
There are 10 types of people in the world.

Those that understand binary and those that do not!
carnkie
16 years ago
And me.

http://medievalnews.blogspot.com/2007/05/height-of-people-during-middle-ages.html 

:smartass: Joke
The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.
Dolcoathguy
16 years ago
Peter
I am 6ft 1' and occasionally have in recent past shown people round the refiners in the clay district, I kept bumping my safety helmet on pipe work (I'm not based at the refiners)...
Maybe in 100 years time, they'll look up the plans and say people were shorter then!


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