Due to an unfortunate incedent with a Jeep, a large peat hole and some mine exporers I have a pressing need fot a winch in the fells aboove Ffestiniong today anyone got one?
Of the reaonably strong hand variety or attatched to 4x4, or possibly anyone feeling adventurous with a tractor?
Jeep is well in and 3 miles from the back of nowhere, 4 hours digging has yet to extract it.
If all else fails I will be heading back there later this morning with a pick and shovel, I may be gone for some time.....

Horlicks, it happens.
If these solutions have been thought of then fine, I offer them as alternatives to your chosen course of action.
Details of situation are sketchy so some might not be appropriate. No details as to distance to safe ground for second vehicle/length of rope/winch gear.

Can, by using a spreader foot or piece of track, the vehicle be raised using hi-lift jacks or one of those exhaust inflating jack bags? I realise that it is very soft/wet ground but sometimes you can lift the vehicle just enough to get more track/sacks etc under wheels.

If vehicle can be got onto some track then could use snatch/bungee method of moving vehicle forward in conjunction with vehicles own traction.

Lastly if there are no offers of help, this is not as daft as it may sound. Get yourself over to the Ponderosa Cafe at one end of the Wayfarer track (Horseshoe Pass). In the car park there you will find most weekends 4x4s assembling with the intention of doing the Wayfarer. Some of the groups have their own recovery vehicles and would relish the challenge of having a go at getting you out. There may be other meeting points nearer if anyone knows of them.

As I say just some alternatives should other avenues fail. Good luck and keep us posted. Pity I wasn't closer.

Peter.

I shall ring the office and see if there's anything around, but I suspect that you'll be well gone given that it's 10am...

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We appear to have a puller rated to 3/4 tonnes which takes the form of a lever block. There's also an alternative solution which is much better, but would require a word with a man...

I've tried Jagman and Miles but both your 'phones are switched off - let me know if I can assist...

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I have a 1200lb ( approx 600 kg) boat winch with 65ft 3/16 cable. You are welcome to borrow it. And you woud have to attach it with a shackle. And I have a strong tow rope. I have some chains at work and a stong ratchet winch.

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He is out! I just had the call 😉

I trust photos will follow! 😉

Thankyou for your kind thoughts and offers of help gentlemen!
Yes its out and I'm home with it, I think there may soon be a small crop of potatoes inside as its well fertilised.
Got it out in an hour the old fashioned way, pick, shovel and high lift jack.
Mrs Jagman dug like a trooper and carried lots of buckets of stone from up the hill.
As it turns out it was bellied all the way to the back axle, in peat. had to jack it four feet up in the end and pack a few hundred weight of loose stone.
Couldn't get it off the mountain down the tramway, or back up the slope I came down to pass the peat bog. Due too a 3 ton lump of limestone on the incline I couldn't get down that way so in the end I drove up over the hill and down via those to trials we looked at yesterday. Eventually down to the lower tramway.
Took about 90 minutes to find a way down once it was dug out.
I fear the aircon may need a little remedial work as bits of it are now hanging off, the alloys are abit scr*ped and I will remount the quick release bumper that is currently residing in the boot along with lots of ropes, jacks, spades and a fairly large quantity of mus and peat.....

If all else fails I will be heading back there later this morning with a pick and shovel, I may be gone for some time.....

Happily, not as long as Captain Oates............ 🙂

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Good to know you're out.

Hopefully no photographs exist and the incident will pass into folklore with no evidence that anything ever happened, other than a few scars on the Jagmobile to keep the conspiracy theorists guessing... 😉

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Good to know you're out.

Hopefully no photographs exist and the incident will pass into folklore with no evidence that anything ever happened, other than a few scars on the Jagmobile to keep the conspiracy theorists guessing... ;)

miles has the evidence i expect the ransom of ten of ffestiniogs finest kebabs will probably keep em under wraps :lol:

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The jagmobile must have been seriously bogged, having seen Jagman make an ascent in very deep mud and snow on racing slicks look like a cruise on the motorway!

The jagmobile must have been seriously bogged, having seen Jagman make an ascent in very deep mud and snow on racing slicks look like a cruise on the motorway!

it was proper stuck all 4 wheels nearly off the ground it was going nowhere the 3 of us took 6 hours trying to get it out until the light had the better of us

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Good to know you're out.

Hopefully no photographs exist and the incident will pass into folklore with no evidence that anything ever happened, other than a few scars on the Jagmobile to keep the conspiracy theorists guessing... ;)

Miles took a few snaps I think, I have no doubts they will emerge in due course!
Its not the 1st time I have been stuck, nor the 1st time bits have mysteriously fallen off....

The jagmobile must have been seriously bogged, having seen Jagman make an ascent in very deep mud and snow on racing slicks look like a cruise on the motorway!

it was proper stuck all 4 wheels nearly off the ground it was going nowhere the 3 of us took 6 hours trying to get it out until the light had the better of us

When I get stuck, I really get stuck 😉
Had no business being there really, given the route we had to take to get up it was fairly predictable that the Jeep wasn't gonna come back the same way very easily.
Got stuck trying to get back through the gulley to try getting up the grass bank and had to jack it out of there too!
When we left there was a pretty perfect imprint of the underside of the Jeep in the peat, sump. gearbox, crossmembers the lot 😉
I suppose at least this time the damage isn't too severe

Miles has put up a couple of pics here-

http://www.mine-explorer.co.uk/bbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1107 

Almost avatar material.... 😉

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