Harank
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17 years ago
I need some help and thought I should go straight to the experts!

I need a ‘scene’ in the UK for my book.

I need the heroine to go down a mine shaft, one that once would have had a pithead (doesnt have to have it now).

I need the mine shaft to be a suitable depth that she can get to the bottom e.g via a robe (absail)

The area the book is set in has a woodlands and a lake. This mine could be around 10 miles away from this.

This place doesn’t have to be a real but I need to write it as accurately as possible so thought I should give an idea of the surroundings.

Could there be a ‘deserted’ mine somewhere she could go down?

What would be covering it/ something moveable?

Some questions.. can you think of a mine I could relate this too. Would it be an old 19th century one? One I can research and find out more?

What type of mine would it be to have a shaft that isn't too deep e.g Tin etc (coal would be too deep wouldn’t it and filled in?)

I just need a type of mine I could relate this to to get started.

Thank you so much for your time.

KJH
Vanoord
17 years ago
May be a daft question, but how deep a shaft would you want it to be?!

And what sort of era is this set? - that may define what the headgear is likely to be like; or are you looking for an abandoned mine?
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Harank
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17 years ago
Not at all daft. I am :)

I don't know anything about mines (but learning!)

The shaft would need to be deep enought to absail. I would think no more than 100m? But you would probably know more than me. I just need her to be able to get to the bottom of the shaft.

I would like it to be an abandoned mine.

Set in present.

thanks for asking!!!
Vanoord
17 years ago
Hokay...

Abseiling - probably 40m should do the trick: presumably you'd need a rope to do so and some sort of device and harness to abseil with. A 100m rope is surprisingly big and heavy, whereas a 50m/60m rope is a wee bit easier to carry around and most people would tend only to use a 100m rope if they had a specific purpose.

Presumably you also need a way to get up the shaft?!

A consideration would also be which part of the country/world this is set as that would affect the type of mine and thus the likely set-up.

Once you've figured out the type of mine, we can point you in the direction of photos of something similar to give you an idea of what it would be like, unless you actually want to have a go! 😮

What do you wish this young (?) lady to do at the bottom of the shaft incidentally?
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AR
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17 years ago
Another consideration is whether the ground the shaft passes through is solid or unstable - for example, a shaft going through limestone will generally be cut through the solid rock without ant sort of lining, whereas a shaft through something loose like shale will be lined with either drystone pack (ginging if you want to get technical...), cut stone masonry, brickwork, or timbering. Not only that. there's the size and shape of shaft to consider, for a shaft with a headgear (a winding shaft) you'd be looking at anything from about 3' round to 12' by 6' in the case of some of the really big combined pumping and winding shafts.

As for coverings - abandoned shafts can be covered by concrete caps with manholes, old railway sleepers, or if you want something a bit easier to shift , try f old corrugated iron, car bonnets, bits of railway track, brushwood, or open and surrounded by knackered barbed wire. Modern coal mine shafts get filled, but older ones might not be, and metal mines such as lead, copper, tin, etc. would tend to still be open unless they've collpased or someone has delibarately filled them in.

If you could give more of an idea of what you have in mind, as Vanoord says we can point you in the direction of something suitable, and quite possibly give photos and a detailed description too!
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sparty_lea
17 years ago
Plenty old lead mines in the Pennines fit the bill and wooded valleys common enough in the area. Vanoord is right too, more than 50m or so of rope on your own along with srt gear is a pain to carry.
What would be covering it? In the north pennines likely an Alston cap (Like a large metal cage) covered in loose rocks, possibly old railway sleepers, sometimes a concrete top with a grid of old railtrack someone has been kind enough to saw one off so you can get through, a manhole cover or even a few old fenceposts and bits of old bed iron, they are very varied.
http://www.mineexplorer.org.uk/surfaceshafts/frogshaft_180605_pic3.htm 
http://www.aditnow.co.uk/photo/Swinhope-Lead-mine-User-Album-Image-006/ 
http://www.aditnow.co.uk/photo/Allenheads-Lead-Mine-User-Album-Image-011/ 
http://www.aditnow.co.uk/photo/Sipton-Lead-mine-User-Album-Image-006/ 


The closer your shaft to a road or houses the more secure the cap is likely to be, if its on a fell top somewhere then a few old sleepers, or simply a fence around it to stop sheep falling in is more likely.
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Gwyn
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17 years ago
I've heard of method acting but never method writing!
When you stated, Harank,..."..she can get to the bottom eg. via a robe." I thought you meant a ripped up petticoat or dress!
Nothing comes immediately to mind around Bethesda that might fit your proposal. Good luck. :thumbsup:
Clunk
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17 years ago
Cathedral in Box is only ~130 feet deep. Used to have a head of some kind. 8 foot diameter bore, but opens up to a large chamber after 25 feet.
westmine
17 years ago
HI Harank

I sugest
The Alderley Edge mines and nearby Motram mines in
Motram St Andrew, plenty of shafts, dry,These are metal mines
if it has to be coal mines , Then look at Poynton mines or
Buxton Area. 🙂

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