Hi all has anybody who has been down Smallcleugh ever experienced any thing spooky?

I've taken several parties through Wheal Bellan that have heard voices whilst in there. I havn't myself, which leads me to think I'm either going deaf or I am the only sane one amongst them.... ::)

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Probably the former Roy as I hear voices all the time :ohmygod: Nothing to do with him though. 🙂

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Hi all has anybody who has been down Smallcleugh ever experienced any thing spooky?

No, despite descending waterblast shaft after the unfortunate death of that young lad in the 80's, photographing the large rock he landed on, (for the inquest) and installing the angle irons still in situ. Long trips through to capleclough, the only voices were the AHHHH!!! as water cold enough to freeze brass monkeys was encountered etc. I'm probably selectivly deaf as well!

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I think it's just that some people have the ability to hear stuff, and others don't. I've been to a good few many places, and so far haven't encountered anything.
My dad has occasionally felt spooked, in Cwmorthin for example, and when my grandad was down a lead mine in yorkshire he heard a ghostly voice telling him to get out.

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During my walks in Cornwall I met an old guy up at Ding Dong with his dog, he swore blind he had seen some odd things around the engine house such as strange movements and shadows and inexplicable sounds but when he approached nothing and nobody there, he reckoned his previous dog wouldn't go near the engine house.
I remembered my first visit on a cold, desolate winters day as dusk approached and it wouldn't have taken much to have got the old imagination working up there on the moor. Its a strange old place and walking back to the car I think if I'd turned around to see a figure following me a bit of a trot might have been called for. 😉

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i always seem to get a feeling of something weird when i go to Cwmorthin when its no more than two of us nothings ever happened just that sixth sense feeling. i wouldn't be surprised if it is haunted as its affectionately known by some as the slaughterhouse.

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i always seem to get a feeling of something weird when i go to Cwmorthin when its no more than two of us nothings ever happened just that sixth sense feeling. i wouldn't be surprised if it is haunted as its affectionately known by some as the slaughterhouse.

Ah yes, that was the name the old quarrymen gave it because of it's working conditions and numbers of deaths. Although statistically deaths weren't much higher than in many of the other Ffestiniog area slate mine.

The ghosties thread http://www.aditnow.co.uk/community/viewtopic.aspx?t=267  had a good account of the benevolent Cwmorthin ghost 😉

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Odd, Marty, that a lot of people suggest Cwmorthin as a place for hauntings, often unprovoked as you have. It almost makes one think that there may be something to it...

My parents are convinced they once lived in a haunted house and cite the cat as being the proof!

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Odd, Marty, that a lot of people suggest Cwmorthin as a place for hauntings, often unprovoked as you have. It almost makes one think that there may be something to it...

My parents are convinced they once lived in a haunted house and cite the cat as being the proof!

i think i get the feeling someone is there or something is going on because your enclosed your alone its dark and the mind plays games. Chris@an and speedycaver are the ones who have no fear of going off on there own in there. wont catch me doin that :lol:

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Odd, Marty, that a lot of people suggest Cwmorthin as a place for hauntings, often unprovoked as you have. It almost makes one think that there may be something to it...

My parents are convinced they once lived in a haunted house and cite the cat as being the proof!

i think i get the feeling someone is there or something is going on because your enclosed your alone its dark and the mind plays games. Chris@an and speedycaver are the ones who have no fear of going off on there own in there. wont catch me doin that :lol:

Who knows;

A few people have actually 'seen' ghosts/miners down mines etc, - what I don't think can be proven though is how someone might see the ghost of a miner for example, surely if the mind is confused then it could produce all kinds of scarier things. Thus we can't beentirely sure if it's a result of the mind...

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The strangest and only experience I've had was in Cligga on the middle level about 25years ago. I was setting up the tripod for a shot on the 1st junction North of Contact Shaft. Having just emerged from planting 2 slave guns in amongst a mess of fallen timbers, my 2 companions said they were going to head East past the old Briggie which is overhead. I watched them walk down the drive before I fired the shot. Picture taken I gathered up the equipment, set it down on the junction. Noticing a light further down the drive, I started off in to find the others. As I got nearer to the end, I was expecting one or both, to come jumping out from behind a timber or such like. I could now see the end of the drive which bends to the right and ends with a blind heading. The buggers must be around there with their lamps turned off I thought, so slowly creeping up I turned expecting to see them crouched down hiding... But nothing!
The light I saw was 'real' and walking back I checked to see if I wasn't being fooled by my caplamp glancing off a pool on the floor and projecting a false light further down the drive. All was dry on the way back, no pools.
I can't explain it, I saw what I saw and I am wont to put it down to a trick by the Knockers. (not the Tommy Knockers), or Noogies if your a Crofty man.
See Map of Cligga Middle Level Below.
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The strangest and only experience I've had was in Cligga on the middle level about 25years ago. I was setting up the tripod for a shot on the 1st junction North of Contact Shaft. Having just emerged from planting 2 slave guns in amongst a mess of fallen timbers, my 2 companionssaid they wer going to head East past the old Briggie which is overhead. I watched them walk down the drive before I fired the shot. Picture taken I gathered up the equipment, set it down on the junction. Noticing a light further down the drive, I started off in to find the others. As I got nearer to the end, I was expecting one or both, to come jumping out from behind a timber or such like. I could now see the end of the drive which bends to the right and ends with a blind heading. The buggers must be around there with their lamps turned off I thought, so slowly creeping up I turned expecting to see them crouched down hiding... But nothing!
The light I saw was 'real' and walking back I checked to see if I wasn't being fooled by my caplamp glancing off a pool on the floor and projecting a false light further down the drive. All was dry on the way back, no pools.
I can't explain it, I saw what I saw and I am wont to put it down to a trick by the Knockers. (not the Tommy Knockers), or Noogies if your a Crofty man.
See Map of Cligga Middle Level Below.
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Very interesting and well described...

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Odd, Marty, that a lot of people suggest Cwmorthin as a place for hauntings, often unprovoked as you have. It almost makes one think that there may be something to it...

My parents are convinced they once lived in a haunted house and cite the cat as being the proof!

i think i get the feeling someone is there or something is going on because your enclosed your alone its dark and the mind plays games. Chris@an and speedycaver are the ones who have no fear of going off on there own in there. wont catch me doin that :lol:

I'm convinced there must be something to all this, because so many people have reported it, and independantly as Vanoord points out.

I've never experienced anything myself, perhaps it comes down to the individual. Since, and aside from, my first trip in Cwmorthin I've always felt completely at ease there, either by myself or in a group. And the reports of encounters there have always (to my knowledge) been benign, like Miles' being guided down a collapsed chamber and Merrdin and Barney's report that initially seemed to be trying to scare them off but we later realised the area shifted soon after so it might have been looking out for them.

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just the other day swmbo and i were up there walking the dog around llyn cwmorthin and i took her for a quick peek inside (shes never been before) just the two of us and the dog to the first chamber then round to the incline and just there it was like ok ive got a weird feeling lets leave i didnt tell the missus she would have freaked so a haisty exit made and off we went yet im fine when theres loads of us having a good old wander

M

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Here is photograhic proof that 'other beings' inhabit the underworld :

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On the Darkplaces Big Bash 2007, i was in Rhosydd taking pics of the incline up to the Twlls. I could feel one of the mesh pockets on my camera ruck sack swinging around. Thinking it was the wind, i hooked it back into place. Again i felt it being moved.....then the zip was pulled....i heard it start to open, spun round and shouted at whatever was trying to nick my Mars Bar. Bleedin cheeky ghosties trying to nick me only food. I must have upset then coz after that my Dragon lamp went flat, followed by my back up lamp as well.

Only place i wont go on me own is Ridge Quarry in Wilts. Can't say why but soon as i get to the bottom of the slope i have bad feeling and have to get out.

DP

I can't say I'm ever entirely comfortable in Wheal Bellan, even though I have not heard the 'Voices'. I was once down there with a very large group 20+ and that was no different. It always seemed to me to be a place at odds with my vibes (man!). I'm not superstitious but respect where respect is due.

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Think on this.
I am, and fairly well known as, a solo explorer.
My longest was 10.5 hours in Caplecleugh when working on digging the route to the high level. I think that all this talk on spooky or whatever is a load of old tosh, sorry.

However:
Royal Forest of Dean, one of alternative entrances to Old Ham.
There was a low crawl and I distinctly heard someone about to come through from the other side. The sound of material against rock, understand.
I called out "Its ok, I am on my own not with a party, so you can come through and I will wait"
Sound of material against rock moving away.
"Come on, its OK, I will wait"
No answer.
I’m scared of Jack S, but I have to confess that I turned back. Nothing supernatural but lets face it there are queer fish around nowadays, and I didn’t want my head bashed in something.

Anyway. Nothing to do with mining, but try this one for size.
I have mentioned the Caplecleugh project, I was working with Heb as a joint project, but when Heb could not make it I would go up to Nenthead and do a solo stint. Getting up at 05.30 hrs, driving 186 miles, up to 10 or more hours underground and back to the asylum that I was on day release from, actually where I live.
I would stop at Killington Lake Services and have 20 minutes kip before a blast down the M6 and to bed.
My turn off is J11 the A460 Cannock turnoff.
Good as gold I turned off the motorway, up the sliproad, and came to standstill at the junction island. This was 1990s and I was driving a cavalier CDI, a nice tool at the time.
Not a sound, not a car to be seen at the island, and what’s more it looked totally unfamiliar. The A460 to Cannock was a dual carriageway with overhead lighting, the 462, my way home to Greengables was nowhere to be seen.
I sat there for a few minutes trying to figure it all out, then deciding that a car was likely to come up behind me and I had better move on, I moved forward slowly.
No A462, just the slip road down to the M6 south. Deciding I had left by the wrong turnoff, I went back onto the motorway. I was soon passing Hilton Park services and I continued down to J10 at Walsall, did a roundy and got back on the M6 north. Good old junction 11, A460, and had to wait for cars on the island at the top.
Back home and safe in my bed
So what the hell happened?
I could not have been hallucinating and driving a dammed car.
Funny thing, the A460 has just been improved and made into a dual carriageway complete with the over head lighting as I remember it.
But where did the 462 go to.
Now all of your suspicions about me are confirmed.
Oh well.

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I did that in Cornwall after a long day walk at Caradon, in the dark driving on roads I knew like the back of my hand.... it scared the hell out of me because I swore blind I was going the right way and simply could not explain what I'd seen yet I ended up back where I should have.... few stiff brandies that night!!! :confused:

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