Mr Mike
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Can this description be added to Nentsberry Haggs page, thanks:

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Nentsberry Haggs Horse Level, Nentsberry, Alston, Cumbria, OS Ref: NY76614503.

The earliest workings around Haggs Mine where developed before the actual horse level was driven. These consisted of levels and trials north of the horse level. One of the larger levels was the High Raise Low Level, which worked the High Raise Vein discovered in 1789 by the Brownley Hill Company. There is no reference that shows when the Haggs Horse Level was first started, but records indicate that the Nentsberry Haggs Vein was being worked in 1737, which is the course of the horse level.

By 1852 the Haggs Horse Level bearing north had reached the High Raise Vein. The vein at this time was not found to be rich and only when the mine was worked under the Nentsberry Mining Company (1895 – 1908) and later on the Lugdale Cemical Company (1908 - 1912) did richer commercially viable deposits get found. The Haggs Horse Level was also developed southwards along the Wellgill Cross Vein, ultimately joining the Brownley Hill Mine. The production of minerals up to 1912 included lead, witherite, and zinc. These where mined from the Cumbrian side of the mine.

In 1913/14 the mine passed to the Vieille Montagne Zinc Company and was worked by them until the early 1920’s. Most of the mining carried out by them was over the county border in Northumberland. The Vieille Montagne Zinc Company was responsible for driving the continuation of the High Raise Vein, which led to the discovery and development of the Cox, Dupoint and Sincay Veins. Subsequently these led to the discovery of the First and Second Sun Veins and the Treloar Vein. These veins where found to intersect some of the older Beaumont workings from the Wellhope Low Level.

The ore from the Nentsberry Haggs complex was treated at the Nentsberry Mill near the level mouth. In 1925, the 127m deep Wellhope Shaft was sunk close to the intersection of the High Raise and Dupoint Veins to provide an alternative means of transport for the ore. The ore was transported from the shaft via an aerial ropeway to the Rampgill Mill, but due to technical difficulties it was never successful and was quickley abandoned.

The mines output was the greatest until 1938, after this the mine was worked sporadically by a number of different companies. Finally the last operator, the Anglo-Austral Company stopped its operations in 1953, with the mine being formally abandoned on the last day in 1958. In 1983 a trial was made on behalf of Industrial Minerals Ltd via the Wellhope Shaft. It was discovered that the horse level was not reachable due to flooding near the bottom. However the sublevels above the horse level were accessible and large un-extracted deposits of high grade lead ore where found along with the main mineral assets of zinc-witherite ores.

Access to the Nentsberry Haggs mine complex today is only via the Wellgill Cross Vein from Brownley Hill mine, and the Wellhope Shaft. The horse level is blocked some 100m in from the portal.

Mr Mike.

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17 years ago
OK, Done that Mr. !
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Mr Mike
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17 years ago
Thanks Cononel, just spotted a mistake, wrong spelling of chemical and a 'cool' seems to have got into it somehow. Can you replace the second paragraph with:




By 1852 the Haggs Horse Level bearing north had reached the High Raise Vein. The vein at this time was not found to be rich and only when the mine was worked under the Nentsberry Mining Company (1895 - 1908) and later on the Lugdale Chemical Company (1908 - 1912) did richer commercially viable deposits get found. The Haggs Horse Level was also developed southwards along the Wellgill Cross Vein, ultimately joining the Brownley Hill Mine. The production of minerals up to 1912 included lead, witherite, and zinc. These where mined from the Cumbrian side of the mine.



Thanks Again.



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"Mr Mike" wrote:



In 1913/14 the mine passed to the Vieille Montagne Zinc Company and was worked by them until the early 1920’s. Most of the mining carried out by them was over the county border in Northumberland. The Vieille Montagne Zinc Company was responsible for driving the continuation of the High Raise Vein, which led to the discovery and development of the Cox, Dupoint and Sincay Veins. Subsequently these led to the discovery of the First and Second Sun Veins and the Treloar Vein. These veins where found to intersect some of the older Beaumont workings from the Wellhope Low Level.



Actually I have archives proving VM activity in the mine at least until 1939. Mineplans accompanying the archives give progress of the several different foreheads in this period. Also the handdrawn section of Wellhope shaft (posted on the site) prove extraction in the Dupont & Cox veins in the Firestone sill.

At one point in the mid 30thies the mixed nature of Haggs ore became a serious problem. The plant in Nenthead was only partially operated and the wooden dressing plant at the Haggs mine mount couldn't handle the ore in sufficient quanities. Several requests for a new dressing plant were made to the board (in Belgium?) but the budget never came trough. Allthough several new and possible rewarding orebodies were discovered by shortlived trials. In these later periods apparently Haggs became more important for the VM as a producer of Barium minerals (Witherite/Baryte) as the contacts with factories at Stockton-on-Tees were mentioned several times. The output of these minerals surplussed by far the output in zinc or lead at the mine and the company was making big profits selling these (since the price of zinc ore was collapsing).

It is in this period that a large part of Haggs miners were apparently transfered to Rotherhope fell where apparently new and large discoveries had been made near the central shaft. The lead ore was naturally of a high concentrate and therefor it was more economic to be extracted.

This is a very raw summary of the information I have. I have more detailed info on the trials, profits, budgets, modernisation plans,etc...

Best wishes,

Philip Mostmans
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17 years ago
Thanks Philip, will update that.
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17 years ago
Not a problem! If you need more info just give a shout... 😉
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17 years ago
Philip
You don't have any information on Gudhamgill do you? I've been talking to Mike about access from both Brownley on one side and Dod level on the other - and we seem to draw a blank when it comes to records, plans etc - any suggestions or pointers would be fantastic...


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17 years ago
"skippy" wrote:

Philip
You don't have any information on Gudhamgill do you? I've been talking to Mike about access from both Brownley on one side and Dod level on the other - and we seem to draw a blank when it comes to records, plans etc - any suggestions or pointers would be fantastic...


Cheers!



There is no access to GG at the current time. Dodd Level is badly collapsed as is both GG high and GG low levels.
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17 years ago
Sorry skippy, nothing for Gudhamgill at the moment. If I find something I'll let you know...

Best wishes,

Philip
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17 years ago
Mmmm.. thanks for checking.. I do know someone who is reputed to have seen the flats in the very early 70's Colonel .. Sounds like a serious dig - ?anyone? or am I chasing dreams.?

Pete
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17 years ago
"skippy" wrote:

Mmmm.. thanks for checking.. I do know someone who is reputed to have seen the flats in the very early 70's Colonel .. Sounds like a serious dig - ?anyone? or am I chasing dreams.?

Pete



Oh yes, the flats were certainly accessible even up to about 1980, but not any more, unfortunately
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Mr Mike
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17 years ago
Can't remember Colonel, when we spoke about them, whether you had been to them or not?
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17 years ago
Sadly not Mike. ... 😞

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