Nelbel
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5 years ago
Ok, so I'm having this debate with a pyramidiot and the drill holes keep surfacing every now and then.

It's kinda hard to argue to this specific argument because i can't find almost any scientific conclusions about stone drilling/cutting in Egypt except some pretty vague texts about bronze cylinders/saws and sand. Ok, there are a couple of vieos of reenactment of sawing a lime stone with bronze saw and sand but what about driling holes and especially about granite working?

I don't doubt that they probably used the same approach everywhere but shouldn't there be experimental archaeologyst reenacting these theories? And if there aren't, then why? What seems to be the problem?

Another thing I dont quite get is the quality of the holes, especially in granite, because this is the material repeatedly pointied out. So, we are shown those nice, even shiny holes, some of them with radial grooves that are supposed to prove that they were cut with a step of approximately 2 mm or something like that which should have been impossible by conventional methods.

Well, of course i doubt that the grooves are spiral which the sould be if they were to indicate the drilling speed and step. Has anybody studied them and pointed out if they are just radial or spiral? If radial, i could explain them very simply: after every certain time or drilling depth the workers replaced the old abrasive (sand) with the fresh one. Now the fresh one, being a better cutter either made a wider or narrower cut (not sure yet, which one; I suspect that in time the sand was powderized and got additional volume from both granite and saw itself and it started to cut these wider sections in drill holes because of the expanding volume but who knows (well, really - I want to know who knows, if anybody; that's why I'm here!)) and when it was worn out, it made the opposite cut. But if they really ARE spiral, then we're ********** i guess. I don't see an appropriate explanation for this.
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Of course, even if the secret of these holes remains a secret forever, it doesn't prove that the aliens or ancient hi-tec civilization did it. It's obvious to rational people that if they had a tecnology to powercut granit as we are able do it only nowadays, they must have had other abilities too! It's not like you have a knowledge of power-cutting and you build the whole pyramid with hi-tec tools but you transport the stones on papyrus rafts and break them from quarry with bronze tools and live in mud huts and...well...in general wont leave behind any hard evidence of this at all. You know what I mean... Pyramidiocy is nothing else than a version of a God of Gaps.

But i'll wait for your answers to my questions. Thank you!
Vanoord
5 years ago
[mod]:blink:

Feel free to discuss stone cutting in ancient times and probably there will be someone registered here who knows a lot about it.

Dissolve into strange theories or insults and use of the forum to do so won't be an option any more. [/mod]
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Vanoord
5 years ago
"r1xlx" wrote:

it is only a strange theory to fools who think themselves evolved from monkeys.
get a bag of monkey nuts and go swing through the trees.



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AR
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5 years ago
"r1xlx" wrote:

it is only a strange theory to fools who think themselves evolved from monkeys.
get a bag of monkey nuts and go swing through the trees.



No thank you, my ancestors got their act together and evolved so I wouldn't have to swing through trees.
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droid
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5 years ago
And monkeys don't swing through trees, that's gibbons and Orangutans.
50shadesofgreen
5 years ago
Egypt has 5000 year old mud brick tombs that show no evidence of a global flood. Neither do their elaborate contents such as wood carvings, fabrics and paintings.
grahami
5 years ago
Please, we do not need this sort of thing on here! Neither beliefs, nor religion nor politics, nor UFOs - there are plenty of other places for such things (not the Pub either)...

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legendrider
5 years ago
dont feed the troll........

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309146 

perhaps a moderator might lock or remove this thread?

MARK
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Jim MacPherson
5 years ago
"legendrider" wrote:

dont feed the troll........

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309146 

perhaps a moderator might lock or remove this thread?

MARK



Well sleuthed Mark,

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RJV
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5 years ago
I actually quite enjoyed that thread on the Skeptics forum. I've never heard the term Woo before. ๐Ÿ™‚
Dr J
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5 years ago
"legendrider" wrote:

perhaps a moderator might lock or remove this thread?

MARK



I'd vote remove, just drivel and craziness :thumbdown:
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ttxela
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5 years ago
"Dr J" wrote:

"legendrider" wrote:

perhaps a moderator might lock or remove this thread?

MARK



I'd vote remove, just drivel and craziness :thumbdown:



Seconded - which is a shame as ancient egyptian stuff is pretty fascinating without the nonsense.

As an aside I quite like monkey nuts and I'd love to be able to swing through the trees Tarzan-like. I tried it on the lianas in Borneo, I just got a lot of bugs dropping on me.
Roger the Cat
5 years ago
"Hat making in West Cornwall" might be a suitable subject for a dissertation.....
allanr
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5 years ago
I thought they only did Yoghurt Weaving there, they have obviously branched out into more remunerative pastimes.
Wormster
5 years ago
Woo, pass the tinfoil hats round!!
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AR
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5 years ago
"RJV" wrote:

I actually quite enjoyed that thread on the Skeptics forum. I've never heard the term Woo before. :)


https://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/  , I'm particularly fond of the alternative therapy picker flowchart....
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BertyBasset
5 years ago
To be fair, his 'Top Twats' is/are very good.
crickleymal
5 years ago
"BertyBasset" wrote:

To be fair, his 'Top Twats' is/are very good.



Yes they made me chuckle.
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Boy Engineer
5 years ago
One of the delights of threads such as this is being introduced to new voices. Thanks for the link Adam. Sentences such as โ€œI will however endeavour to do my best to make my ad-hominem attacks as creative as I am ableโ€ warm the cockles of my Radio 4 heart. Great to see a blogger for whom language is important, rather than just a sequence of misspelled textspeak.
droid
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5 years ago
Agreed.

A level of pisstake of pseuds I can only aspire to.
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