Lister
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13 years ago
Grahami copyright?
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Edd
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13 years ago
,ORIGINAL "GRAHAM ISHERWOOD" MAP ONLY ENLARGED,

I wonder if graham knows!
'I started reading it with full intention to read it all and then got bored and went and got beer instead!'
AR
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13 years ago
If he didn't, he does now..... :lol:
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JohnnearCfon
13 years ago
The sellers on ebay are either getting dafter, or more brazen! First you get people who gladly admit where they have stolen things from. Now there is this idiot who is selling copies of plans giving the draughtman's name!
sinker
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13 years ago
"jona" wrote:

there are some cwm maps on ebay in a2 size. :thumbsup:



Is it you selling them....? Is Graham ok with it?
Yma O Hyd....
JohnnearCfon
13 years ago
I have just realised the original poster is from Criccieth as is the item on ebay. I wonder if it is the same person!

sinker
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13 years ago
"JohnnearCfon" wrote:

I have just realised the original poster is from Criccieth as is the item on ebay. I wonder if it is the same person!



I think so.... :lol:
Yma O Hyd....
JohnnearCfon
13 years ago
I asked about the copyright and received this reply!

hi,no these are NOT copyright,maps have been inspected and bear no copyright marking,
many thanks mel


Si I have replied thus:-

Your ignorance of the law astounds me!

All items automatically are the copyright of the original producer of the work. As such those maps ARE still in copyright.
simonrl
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13 years ago
I suspect the person who started the thread is the person selling them on ebay.

jona's profile on here says "chainsaw & lawnmower repairs/servicing" and his ebay page has all manner of chainsaw bits on it.

So I guess same person.

Unless told otherwise, by Graham or JonK of Adit Publications I assume this is a complete infrinment of their copyright.

Please don't let this thread degenerate into threats of violence. If they're an infringement of copyright then eBay does have procedures to deal with that.
my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by
JohnnearCfon
13 years ago
To report it to eBay

Go to the item (260957866032)
Click on "Report item"
Then use "Reason for Report" drop down and highlight "counterfeits and breach of copyright"
Then use detail drop down and highlight "Bootleg and counterfeit media".
Then put details in last box and press report button.
simonrl
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13 years ago
Thank you for removing them. Graham, the gent who drew the maps, frequents this and other sites, as does the owner of the company that publishes the book they were copied from.

Graham is very generous in sharing the amount of information he does, but flogging his maps is several steps too far.

Mine exploration is a small community, and those people running businesses that cater for it (e.g. book publishers, authors, dvd production companies, gear suppliers) need our support.
my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by
JonK
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13 years ago
Thanks to all for clearing this up promptly. As one of the publishers of the revised edition of the Cwmorthin book I would hate to see others making money where we failed to - although financial gain was never our motive. The purpose was to increase awareness of the mine and the Slate Industry in general. We have never had an issue with people using the maps and copying the maps solely for research and exploration. I don't take the book underground and I wouldn't expect others to.
grahami
13 years ago
Sorry, not been online for a couple of days - thanks to everyone for attending to this. Iw oudl certainly have responded had I seen it.

:flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:

Grahami
The map is the territory - especially in chain scale.
jona
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13 years ago
hi graham,sorry about the map issue,i now know i was wrong,
my father speaks very highly of you,says he and the late will roberts (gloddfa ganol) helped you with some research in the past.
Everything I like is either immoral, illegal or fattening!!!

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