Derelict-UK
18 years ago
Hello all, Im quite new to the forum.

Im one of those urban explorers who do the under buildings type of stuff, but as I grew up in Kendal I always had access to the lakes and explored the tiny tunnels around hodge close and the surrounding hills.

I have recently heard about Carrock fell, alot more intense than hodge close I know, but I would love to explore it and plan to do so this weekend coming.

Would it be possible to ask for any info on dangers in the mine and what to look out for in both good and bad aspects.

Im not sure what your forum rules are on access details so I wont ask as I can usually find holes into places quite easily.

As the site has been closed for about 20 years has it been past onto the trust or the park? and are there ever security patrols nearby as I have heard of the traffic light scheme to stop ppl picking up the minerals (Im only interested in taking pics of the site).

Thanks,

Mike.
LAP
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18 years ago
Wait until "the Nimrod" is here.
He has much expirience in this area.
Welcome by the way 😉
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Lliaws a bwyllaf - Líows o boylav
Ac a bryderaf - ac o boryddarav
Kyfarchaf y veird byt - covarcav yr vairth
Pryt nam dyweid - poryth na'm dowaith
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jagman
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18 years ago
Carrock is on privately owned property, National Park Rangers also frequent the area, if caught going underground (unlikely) you may be asked to leave or pay a trespass fee.
Do not collect any minerals, the fine is upto £10k!
Water up to around knee depth but no great shakes, bad air in places but they are marked/taped off.
All floors above the lowest levels have false floors, you may not see them but they are there, often completely hidden under a surface that looks like natural rock.
Ladders are very iffy, those that are in reasonable condition ofen aren't secured by much. One of them hangs 120 feet up in a shaft secured only by telephone wire, you will only find this at the top.
Multi stage ladderways are built on timber platforms in the shafts, the platforms are often in worse condition than the ladders.
Recent rock falls have occured with lumps upto around a ton dropped into the tramway, generally the rock is pretty good but then it looked good jut before it collapsed too :lol:
Excellent hard rock mine. It has most of the hazards associated with Lakeland metal mines.
If you go up ladderways be aware that most levels are blown near the surface so you wil have to come out the way you go in, so if you break the ladder you will be stuck up there 😉
Its a lovely mine, enjoy 😉
Derelict-UK
18 years ago
cheers, I know all about the tresspass 'law' and my rights and how to treat the owner with respect and to leave if asked.

So once in, on the entrance level are there any false floors or do you have to climb any ladders? Im not fussed if I dont climb any ladders if there is enough to see without having to take the risk. I also heard that there is a road that goes virtually all the way up there, do you need to obviously drive through a, say farm, to get there? or can you access it by not going on their land?
JohnnearCfon
18 years ago
"jagman" wrote:

Carrock is on privately owned property, National Park Rangers also frequent the area, if caught going underground (unlikely) you may be asked to leave or pay a trespass fee.
Do not collect any minerals, the fine is upto £10k!

Its a lovely mine, enjoy 😉



What is a "trespass fee"? Is it legally enforcable even?
Captain Scarlet
18 years ago
There is a public road almost all the way to the mine site, and once in, there is plenty to see without going up the ladders. Quite safe too as mines go. There is an open level higgher up the fell which is perfectly safe to explore.
Have a good one.. 😉
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Derelict-UK
18 years ago
cheers nimrod.

One more question, how do you get there lol, is it signed from Keswick?

On the tresspass business the only fine I know about is if you tresspass on railway sites, all other areas the owner of the property must prosecute you through civil courts to 'fine' you, but that aint going to happen really, you just get asked to leave.
LAP
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18 years ago
"Derelict-UK" wrote:

cheers nimrod.

One more question, how do you get there lol, is it signed from Keswick?

On the tresspass business the only fine I know about is if you tresspass on railway sites, all other areas the owner of the property must prosecute you through civil courts to 'fine' you, but that aint going to happen really, you just get asked to leave.



Yep I think your right!
I never understodd why Pandora is so special in the "trespassing" world.
Any ideas :oops: :offtopic:
Kein geneis kanaf - Cain gnais canaf
Byt vndyd mwyhaf - byth onddyth moyav
Lliaws a bwyllaf - Líows o boylav
Ac a bryderaf - ac o boryddarav
Kyfarchaf y veird byt - covarcav yr vairth
Pryt nam dyweid - poryth na'm dowaith
Py gynheil y byt - Pa gonail y byth
Na syrch yn eissywyt - na soroc yn eishoyth
Neur byt bei syrchei - nour byth bai sorochai

Captain Scarlet
18 years ago
"Derelict-UK" wrote:

cheers nimrod.

One more question, how do you get there lol, is it signed from Keswick?



This website has a site location facility. Go to Carrocks home page and click the streetmap link
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jagman
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18 years ago
"LAP" wrote:

"Derelict-UK" wrote:

cheers nimrod.

One more question, how do you get there lol, is it signed from Keswick?

On the tresspass business the only fine I know about is if you tresspass on railway sites, all other areas the owner of the property must prosecute you through civil courts to 'fine' you, but that aint going to happen really, you just get asked to leave.



Yep I think your right!
I never understodd why Pandora is so special in the "trespassing" world.
Any ideas :oops: :offtopic:



As I understand it (never had it happen to me) if the landowners employee's find you then they will allow yo underground but charge a small fee for it.
Heb
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18 years ago
Be sure to cover the main adit up again after exploration, seems to keep Dalemain estate happy.
The Coomb Height workings (left of Grainsgill beck) on the Harding vein, contain deep stopes & bad air from mill tailings pumped back in during the last working of the mine.
The first branch (left) of the main Canadian level is particularly smelly - this went under the stopes mentioned above, it only ends in a concrete dam anyway. The main righthand drive on Harding is most interesting, but along here, avoid the long drive on the right (to Emerson vein) as it contains bad air & deep water). The rest of the mine including all of Smith vein is quite safe on this level - all of the other higher levels contain deep shafts back down to the Canadian level.
Most of the ladders in Canadian level are good (steel), the platforms that they rest on ARE NOT (wood)!!
A good plan & section is shown in John Adams book 'Mines of the Lake District Fells'.

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