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J25GTi
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#21

"Tony Blair" wrote:
Just to complicate things. The 1848 Symons map confuses things even more.

You have West footway, which probably corresponds to Brunton's Footway. BrEnton's engine shaft with a different spelling. Old machine shaft which looks to correspond with Machine Shaft and New Machine Shaft which appears to have been lost by 1857. Then there is a big gap of nothing and Footway which looks to correspond to Webb's Shaft and East Footway which appears to correspond to Matthew's Shaft.

There is also a New Engine Shaft further down the hill.

I imagine if you went back even further, it would be something totally different again.

I presume some of the machine shafts got lost when they stoped everything right out....which they did. Which would be a reason that the engine shafts went elsewhere. I don't really recall ever reading about pitwork being randomly slung down huge stopes.

It is an interesting site that is for sure. Its a shame its is all gone.

I PMd you Tony Blair :thumbup:

I am still trying to make sense of what is what and how it all fitted together, my main interest right now is how it would have all linked together on the surface with regards to the pumping and equipment etc. There seems to be so little information relating to this mine considering its age and history...

Tony Blair
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10 years ago

#22

I'm not set up for PMs.

Big Dave or Ali can supply my email address. Or you can root out my work one.

simonrl
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10 years ago

#23

You are now.

my orders are to sit here and watch the world go by

Tony Blair
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10 years ago

#24

There have been some wrong things written about this place and I have made the error of assuming that "matthew's engine house" was the one by the road. I think the pic is in an old book and the OS has it on "that side of the road".

Having done a proper overlay, I think that the cut down engine house is Footway Shaft (later engine shaft) and everything else is on the other side of the road.

I'll give this some more thought and treatment, as it's not an area I've really given much attention.

Tamarmole
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10 years ago

#25

Given that I drive through, and indeed over, Drakewalls every day I must admit to feeling a bit guilty, wearing my mining historian's hat, that I don't know the mine as well as I should

J25GTi
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10 years ago

#26

"Tamarmole" wrote:
Given that I drive through, and indeed over, Drakewalls every day I must admit to feeling a bit guilty, wearing my mining historian's hat, that I don't know the mine as well as I should

It is pretty disgraceful to be honest,

Although I am with Stu, I agree that matthews engine shaft is the other side of the road with the "other" engine house.... Meaning footway shafts are the vent pipe and bat castle....

Baylys shaft although shown on the 1857 plans seems to not feature anywhere else...

I will try pop up tomorrow and have a look round 🙂

Tony Blair
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10 years ago

#27

It is tragic the open gunnis was used as a tip.

I think the footway "engine shaft" was meant to be fitted with bat access, but was not. When bat castles are built, it's along the same lines as a plug, apart from concrete rings are used through the larger part of it.

If the vent pipe sticks out of earth, the manhole is buried. They specifically left access in the hatch, as I gather the pitwork was in the shaft and was "important remains". There may be a discreet grille somewhere. Probably not.

I have a cage I can rattle about this, but I have a feeling it's "Duchy" and no-one is going near anything for any reason.

exspelio
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10 years ago

#28

"Tony Blair" wrote:

I have a cage I can rattle about this, but I have a feeling it's "Duchy" and no-one is going near anything for any reason.

Up here in Derbyshire we have always found the Duchy very amenable, but there again our Duchy is his mum::)

Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.