Just had a cycle around the Mars area of Wheal Maid
came across an unusual shaft that comprises a vertical and inclined section under the same clwyd cap. never seen the likes of this before .Where was Coads Shaft please?

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I bit to technical for me to immiediately grasp
mega area!

this might help a bit
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.235153&lon=-5.171144&z=17.4&r=0&src=msl 

cant vouch for its accuracy though, not knowing this area that well

Get yourself a copy of the Hamilton Jenkin Maps from the carbis bay crew website and a copy of Dines from Moorebooks.

Got the maps and other usefull stuff from Roy M thanks,
a lot to digest !

I think I found the area in question ,via flash earth in the first place. good prog ,Much better than google earth .
I didn't know there was so much going on in the 1980's
Ta

The ladders in Coad's Shaft are dangerous and it's a rope job.

There is also another shaft open on that patch....I think it's possibly Lark's Shaft.

There were a line of shafts going up towards the horse place (one is still open with a massive cone on it, you can see from the road). I can't remember where I got the information from, but this is East Wheal Damsel. (worked the extention of West Virgin lode). Carharrack mine was on the other side of the road and worked the extention of Wheal Maid South Lode (IIRC). There is a degree of confusion about Whiteworks (behind Drew's yard, now obliterated) being a part of Carharrack Mine, but this is erroneous IMO. Whiteworks being a separate venture dating back a serious long time. I think Henwood (1843) refers to it being ancient.

If you're interested in that area, the best thing you can do is go to the County Record Office and ask to see MRO-R103 which are the consols/united plan bunch. They are the best of the Cornish Mine Plans, which as a whole are some pretty impressive documents.

Consols really pushed the boat out and some of them are like paintings.

There is also another section of Consols from 1815 which shows the extent of the workings on the various components of Consols. It clearly shows the separation and extent of the former workings. Considering the 1819 and later rework of Consols was the "great" period of working which pulled out huge amounts of ore on a massive scale, I'd consider this plan and re-ask the question about whether Devon Great Consols was in fact the biggest and richest copper structure in the westcountry.

The 1815 section pretty much shows "most of it" had been removed!!! That's 65 years or so of a pretty seriously rich structure. It would be an interesting exercise to compare some data from Henwood (about the size of the lodes) and then compare the two sections and make a rough estimate of what had been removed prior to 1815. (the answer is a huge amount of stuff).

West Virgin was a huge and extensive sett. It's easy to assume that Coad's shaft is near the end of it. It's actually about in the middle of that section.

There is also another section of Consols from 1815 which shows the extent of the workings on the various components of Consols. It clearly shows the separation and extent of the former workings. Considering the 1819 and later rework of Consols was the "great" period of working which pulled out huge amounts of ore on a massive scale, I'd consider this plan and re-ask the question about whether Devon Great Consols was in fact the biggest and richest copper structure in the westcountry.

The 1815 section pretty much shows "most of it" had been removed!!! That's 65 years or so of a pretty seriously rich structure. It would be an interesting exercise to compare some data from Henwood (about the size of the lodes) and then compare the two sections and make a rough estimate of what had been removed prior to 1815. (the answer is a huge amount of stuff).

West Virgin was a huge and extensive sett. It's easy to assume that Coad's shaft is near the end of it. It's actually about in the middle of that section.

Surely the records in dines will tell you everything you need to know about what one was bigger....

the gps position of the shaft I found is lat 50.23.49.82
long-5.155395. seems to be some way from the WM decline!
incline and vertical under same cap weird.

the gps position of the shaft I found is lat 50.23.49.82
long-5.155395. seems to be some way from the WM decline!
incline and vertical under same cap weird.

Not weird at all.

Hingston downs utilises the same kind of set up 🙂

1. Type in www.flashearth.com

2. Move the + to where you want it.

3. From the left hand menu, click "permanent link"

4. Copy the www. bit and paste it, like this:-

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.23528&lon=-5.170589&z=18.2&r=0&src=msl 

Which is coads. I'm not sure of the dual shaft you speak of, as far as I know, there are none. (One of the lovelace shafts has got a funny feature in the collar, I suspect this might be something to do with flat rods)

Hi I'm pretty sure this is the shaft in question, Ta for tip re FE,
can you Explain how to atach pics as its not obvious

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=50.234977&lon=-5.155401&z=17.9&r=338&src=msl 

That's one of the Wheal Lovelace shafts. I have a feeling that section was out of use by 1815. They pick up some shallowish stuff on Fortune Lode IIRC.

I've asked the same question about what it is. No idea. It's too shallow to be some sort of manway, it's too small to be a chamber for some sort of pumping related apparatus (fend off/balance)....besides, why wouldn't you put it right on the surface.

It's quite possible the shaft started off with some sort of feature there, perhaps a balance bob pit and when the collar was built up more, for another purpose perhaps, they left than in for an unknown reason. A place to stow things.

There are some really unexplainable features in Cornish mining. There's one at Wheal Chance where a very deep shaft has been boarded over at about 120ft down. Why not at the top? Baffling....... that's just where they did it.

Re Somerset Miner/Coads Yes spot on only 10 mins walk from my place.
I've only recently realised the significance of the crosshairs:confused:
in FE. I see why this shaft is a hot potatoe so to speak.
Ta.

There were a line of shafts going up towards the horse place (one is still open with a massive cone on it, you can see from the road). I can't remember where I got the information

Re Horse place:, large hole maybe shaft opened recently on the horse place field , I remember a jcb filling it in ,very H/S!
Another fairly recent field collapse on the way from Carharrack Club towards Higher Tolcarne with just a rudimentry temp fence around it, Crack in my wall at Trevince PARC , Should I be worried?:(

Re Somerset Miner/Coads Yes spot on only 10 mins walk from my place.
I've only recently realised the significance of the crosshairs:confused:
in FE. I see why this shaft is a hot potatoe so to speak.
Ta.

pleased it was correct! I spent some time lining up FE to match Roys map

Going back to the 1815 map, it has detail of carharrack mine which is not present in anything later. Without lining things up, the big horse field shaft looks to be called "buckingham's shaft" and the one on that side of the road in the scrub which is capped looks to be called Tregaskis' Shaft. That lot worked the the Wheal Fortune lode.

Slightly later, it appears West Wheal Virgin did a lot more stoping on the Carharrack side of Coads Shaft (in the fields the other side of the road to the horse field with the cone in it). It was quite extensive and there are 12 shafts carharrack side of Coads Shaft. Pretty much all traces of which have been obliterated. This appears to have been on the Wheal Maid lode. (They cross over slightly west of Coads Shaft)

Looking at the extent of the workings on the sections, I hope they capped the shafts properly, otherwise it might be a bit of a gamble putting anything of value in the field.

One thing is certain. There are one hell of a lot more shafts up at Consols than on the surface. They come and go on the various plans. If you look at the latest (Jane) plans of the area, it appears they lifted them from the last set of consols plans without really paying any attention to any of the earlier stuff. Sloppy performance by that dept!

Going back to the 1815 map, it has detail of carharrack mine which is not present in anything later. Without lining things up, the big horse field shaft looks to be called "buckingham's shaft" and the one on that side of the road in the scrub which is capped looks to be called Tregaskis' Shaft. That lot worked the the Wheal Fortune lode.

Slightly later, it appears West Wheal Virgin did a lot more stoping on the Carharrack side of Coads Shaft (in the fields the other side of the road to the horse field with the cone in it). It was quite extensive and there are 12 shafts carharrack side of Coads Shaft. Pretty much all traces of which have been obliterated. This appears to have been on the Wheal Maid lode. (They cross over slightly west of Coads Shaft)

Looking at the extent of the workings on the sections, I hope they capped the shafts properly, otherwise it might be a bit of a gamble putting anything of value in the field.

One thing is certain. There are one hell of a lot more shafts up at Consols than on the surface. They come and go on the various plans. If you look at the latest (Jane) plans of the area, it appears they lifted them from the last set of consols plans without really paying any attention to any of the earlier stuff. Sloppy performance by that dept!

Buckinghams shaft might? be named after the Duke of Buckingham, I seem to remember that the said Duke was also involved with the old Trelawney mine at Gwennap Pit (not to be confused with other Trelawney mine(s) It's a similar time frame.

Lozz.