Dog down a open shaft in Scorrier

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pyromark
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12 years ago

http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/UPDATE-PHOTOS-Firefighters-rescue-dog-shaft-near/story-19026917-detail/story.html#

Exploring the mines of Cornwall and making some bloody good mates on the way!

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lozz
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12 years ago

Another one slipped the collar...

http://www.westbriton.co.uk/Rottweiler-rescued-shaft-Carnkie-Redruth/story-19088881-detail/story.html

Lozz.

John Mason
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12 years ago

Handy, that Rottweiler-net!

Animals down shafts are quite a challenge - they are freaked-out and a typical response isn't, "boy, am I glad to see you!" - I vividly recall the shenannigans Si Hughes and I had getting a hefty bullock (or was it a heifer? - it was many moons ago, but it was big and pissed-off) out of a 20ft deep open stope at Penybanc mine, Talybont, one summer evening. It was getting to the point where one of us would have to shoot it to put it out of its misery, but we got there in the end and the beast lived to tell the tale, so far as one can interpret moo-ing!

Roy Morton
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12 years ago

I've pulled quite a few dogs from some pretty grotty places and the most reluctant customer was a miniature Dachshund. Feisty and wriggly but no personal injury. However, a call on new years day got two of us out for a cat that had fallen into the hot pit of Fortescues engine house. After finding it cowering in the bolt ducts under the cylinder bed, it sank it's teeth into my hand . The thick leather gloves I wore were no protection for needlepoint teeth. A visit to casualty later and I sat down to dinner at 11 pm. :lol: all's well that end's well though
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Dolcoathguy
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11 years ago

http://www.westbriton.co.uk/dogs-fall-Scorrier-shaft/story-21146560-detail/story.html

Is this the same shaft as last year?
You'd think someone would make it safe after last year!
Especially as it is near a Caravan park.

It must be having its annual Dog sacrifice (Almost exactly same period as last year!)

Is it safe to come out of the bunker yet?

Dolcoathguy
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11 years ago

Gwinear this time,
But some good pics showing rescue equipment /team on Westcountry website. Also may give some idea which shaft this is.

http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/update/2014-07-09/fire-crews-rescue-puppy-from-80ft-mine-shaft/

Is it safe to come out of the bunker yet?

Tamarmole
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11 years ago

I do have concerns about F&RS personnel attending mine (or c**e) incidents having seen them in action underground.

If I was in a burning building or a wrecked car there is no one I would be happier to see....... horses for courses.

Drillbilly.
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11 years ago

I will reserve judgement about FRS, as I am not in a position to comment.

However, they did f*ck the fence up around the shaft at Nangiles when they performed a rescue, and failed to fix it.

Trewillan
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11 years ago

"Tamarmole" wrote:
I do have concerns about F&RS personnel attending mine (or c**e) incidents having seen them in action underground.

If I was in a burning building or a wrecked car there is no one I would be happier to see....... horses for courses.

This isn't a troll, so please don't take it the wrong way, I think you've raised an interesting point. What would be a realistic alternative to F&RS?

Trewillan
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11 years ago

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"Drillbilly." wrote:
...they did f*ck the fence up around the shaft at Nangiles when they performed a rescue, and failed to fix it.

That is surely not F&RS responsibility. And was the fence already f*ckd, hence the need for a rescue?

Margot
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11 years ago

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"Trewillan" wrote:

This isn't a troll, so please don't take it the wrong way, I think you've raised an interesting point. What would be a realistic alternative to F&RS?

Cave rescue, of course!

Drillbilly.
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11 years ago

#12

"Trewillan" wrote:

"Drillbilly." wrote:
...they did f*ck the fence up around the shaft at Nangiles when they performed a rescue, and failed to fix it.

That is surely not F&RS responsibility. And was the fence already f*ckd, hence the need for a rescue?

No, there were some gibbons who had decided to look around nangiles and one got in a pickle on the 15ft or so pitch.

Fire brigade turned up and basically f cked the fence. They made zero effort to sort it out and the way it was left posed a threat to various animals. I don't think "duty of care" applies to them.

It is very poor form. The fence was fine before and it is still compromised.

However, I'm sure they managed to tick all their bullsh t bingo boxes before they did anything.

Margot, you are trolling!

exspelio
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11 years ago

#13

Don't think MHSaher is trolling, perfectly reasonable answer to the question asked.

Always remember, nature is in charge, get it wrong and it is you who suffers!.

Margot
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11 years ago

#14

I think I was rather quoting in a sloppy manner! Let's see if I can edit that...
Ah, that looks better.

Drillbilly.
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11 years ago

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"exspelio" wrote:
Don't think MHSaher is trolling, perfectly reasonable answer to the question asked.

What you don't do in Cornwall is ever ever ever mention Mine Rescue.

It is akin to digging up Princess Diana and shagging her.

Personally, I don't give a toss. I'm totally responsible for myself and make my own call out arrangements. It opens old wounds and stirs up bad feeling. The less said about it, the better.

Tamarmole
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11 years ago

#16

"Trewillan" wrote:

"Tamarmole" wrote:
I do have concerns about F&RS personnel attending mine (or c**e) incidents having seen them in action underground.

If I was in a burning building or a wrecked car there is no one I would be happier to see....... horses for courses.

This isn't a troll, so please don't take it the wrong way, I think you've raised an interesting point. What would be a realistic alternative to F&RS?

Without wishing to get involved in the politics of the matter Cornwall Search & Rescue would seem to be the appropriate people. They at least "do" mines as part of their training.

remoteneeded
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11 years ago

#17

This is probably a silly question but how did they see whilst underground? Looking at the pictures not one of them has a headlamp or indeed a bracket to attach one.

Drillbilly.
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11 years ago

#18

Mid-day, or someone had a big mirror on a stick?

lozz
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11 years ago

#19

Shafts probably not more than six foot square or so at the bottom, one kick and you've found the dog.

Lozz.

Trewillan
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11 years ago

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"remoteneeded" wrote:
This is probably a silly question but how did they see whilst underground? Looking at the pictures not one of them has a headlamp or indeed a bracket to attach one.

You're right, but they all have torches clipped on to harness. Look again, the torches are yellow.