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Dear all,

My first post on here. A friend has given me his colour slides to scan and there are a few of a mine entrance, etc. which he believes he took while working on the earth moving contract for the Stoke 'D' Road (A500) in 1971.
I have a copy of the 1959 edition of the Colliery Guardian Yearbook which lists 'Licensed and other Mines'. I have gone through those for the Stoke, etc. area and looked them up on your website to see if I can get a match but quite a few of them have no photos posted; those that have don't appear to match. Hopefully someone with local knowledge might be able to work out the location.
How can I post the digital images (.jpg) on this forum?
Thanks in advance for any assistance,
Roger
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Depends which side of the A34. if it was just to to the E side, probably one of the High Carr drifts. At that time though, probably to the West side, so possibly Jamage?
Staffs.china may be along shortly & he might know. Three years ago I could of just asked my father, that was his, his brothers, dads, granddads etc stamping ground. All gone now.

edit. If it was a newish footrall rather than one that was destroyed in the construction, it was probably the Wedgwood, George Howells place.
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My son lives in Crackley Bank near that junction. I will send him out to explore as part of his daily exercise !

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staffordshirechina
5 years ago
Mr C has listed the obvious ones near the D road. We just need to see the photos!

Until you know the names you can upload them to your personal album.
Go to My Aditnow, Personal album then upload to there. You can then copy a link to show a photo in a post.

Les
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Thanks for the responses.

I have now uploaded the photos to a folder created by Admins (Thank you!) - hope you can find them. I am still finding out how to navigate my way around this site :confused::-[
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That's one of the High Carr ones. The old garage on Talke roundabout is plainly in view in the middle photograph, unless I'm very much mistaken?
What dust recken Les?
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Many thanks for the replies and pointer to the Talke location.

I have added a couple of extracts from the OS 1/2500 scale plan showing two possible mines (black arrows) and two garages (& transport cafes) (red dots)

I will send the photographer copies of these maps to see if they jog his memory.

Kind regards,

Roger
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The pictured mine is the one on the map with just the one garage on the LHS. Photo 2 (showing the white garage) is taken from roughly SJ8361 5158, looking slightly north of west. Photo 1 is looking in a similar direction. Photo 3 is from the same area but looking SE ish. The cutting shown on the map is on the left, over the fence.
Both my uncle & (IIRC) grandfather worked there.
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staffordshirechina
5 years ago
Yes, Definitely High Carr.
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Mr C & Staffordshire China,

Many thanks for your help - much appreciated.

I have 'got it' now:thumbsup: If I had looked a bit more carefully at photos 2 and 1 I would have seen that some of the features (e.g. the trees) marry up. The track layout shown on the OS map doesn't match that seen in the photos - that threw me somewhat. I thought it was very unlikely that it was the Jamage location as that section of the A500 had been constructed by 1969 but put this in for elimination purposes 😎.

I now need to find out how to move the pictures to the High Carr entry in the main database of the Site.

Incidentally, the two editions of the Colliery Guardian Yearbook I have (1959 and 1974) show the mine (footrail) name as New High Carr. The 1959 edition says the owners are New High Carr Colliery Co. Ltd., Chesterfield (sic), Staffs and employed 43 u/g and 11 surface. The manager is shown as S.Rogers. The 1974 edition shows the owner as Great Row Colliery Co. Ltd., Chesterton, Staffs - employing 24 u/g and 10 surface.

By the way, I am a member of the Industrial Railway Society; New High Carr has an entry in our Industrial Locomotives of North Staffordshire Handbook. It says a 2' 0" gauge rope-hauled tramway served this footrail.

Kind regards,

Roger
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I'm slightly confused :confused: by the entries in the main database - these show New High Carr Nos 3 and 4. The Industrial Railway Society book says that No 4 "Appears to have taken over the workings of the New High Carr Colliery Co Ltd, which see. Closed by 1990."

I assume from this that my photos should go in the No 4 entry. Please can you confirm this, thanks.

Roger
staffordshirechina
5 years ago
I think I would go for Number 3. Your photos show quite elderly buildings.
Sadly I never got to go to High Carr. I worked for the same company but at their Apedale mine and latterly Bank Top mine.
High Carr had finished by around 1988. My surface haulage driver at the time was transferred from High Carr around 87/88 when it was closing.
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I think I'd plump for no.3 as well, for similar reason. I do recall from conversation with my Uncle Roy, that he drove a new dip there for George M in the 70's. I've just checked some notes he left me & he was there 75 - 77. Previously he was there presumably under the Chesterfield (Chesterton?) outfit 57 to 59.
I believe it was at High Carr that the infamous drill melting "Betty Knapper Stone" occured!
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