Boggy
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17 years ago
tourch on ebay...surely the output cant be that good can it...and does anyone recognise the battery type ive never heard of those batteries.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350048473979&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=022 
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thorpey
17 years ago
cr 123a batteries are used in some cameras and fenix torches and are lithium based. How long was the run time.
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stevem
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17 years ago
Looks possible. A single Cree is capable of 230 lumens so 3 being quoted as 500 is definitely a possibility.
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Vanoord
17 years ago
You can pick up CR123As for about £1.25/£1.50 if you look around and a pair of rechargeable ones with a charger are about £15 from here: http://www.excellentstuff.co.uk/Batteries-&-Chargers/c-1-80/ 
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Tamar Miner
17 years ago
I bought one last year (i have a bit of a thing with torches - a bit like my missus with shoes!). These torches while not expensive and with a high spec (on paper at least) are a poor quality copy of a very good design by Surefire (I have tried to paste a link to a source of the original products below but if that does not work just google surefire torches).

I bought the CREE 200 version and was initially quite pleased - nice and bright, and felt quite sturdy. It lasted less than a month before it stopped working so I sent it back and was sent a new replacement. That lasted less than 3 months.I took it apart to find that water had got in (although that was not the real problem) and that the connection between switch and LEDs was flimsy and had come apart. I sent this one back and was told I should not have got it went and never got a refund or replacement.

[url]http://www.nightgear.co.uk/p/609/Surefire-Torches/Surefire-Torch-%7C-Surefire-M4-Devastator-Flashlight-Torch.htm

They were designed originally to a military spec to provide a very high output light for military ops (the version you are looking at has a crenellated bezel designed to be used for afflicting injury at close quarters - real nice idea - just what you need underground!).

You can expect to pay between £50.00 and £300+ for a genuine surefire torch.

I bought a bottom of the range version from Surefire in Feb for £49.95 and it's a completely different animal - fantastic bit of kit. The only downside is that it eats a set of battereies in minutes rather than hours which is probably why the CREE version has LEDs now.

I really would not recommend these CREE torches - even a maglite with an LED conversion kit would be a far superior animal (although not as bright).

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Tamar Miner
17 years ago
I think the bottom half of my post is missing - Simon can you assist?
Brakeman
17 years ago
The only problem would be the small runtime with those little batteries, the 18650 protected cells would be better, one of these larger cells more or less replaces 2 of the smaller ones.

Have a look at this Ultrafire W500 including batteries, charger & holster, ebay item, 290221424339. Have been using one now for a couple of weeks, it is xenon but performs really well, have dropped into water and had no leakage problems as yet.
Also the bulb/lens sub assenblies are replaceable and interchangeable with leds cheaply too.


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mountainpenguin
SimplyExploring
17 years ago
The CR123As are crap as a battery! I will agree the 18650 cells are great and are a much better battery by far. There getting very common now and now available in the uk.

The Ultrafire is a great torch but they don't take a beating very well. Only have to drop it hard once and the bulb blows. Apart from that they sure do pack a punch for the size torch.

The only other torch I've seen recently that is great value and runs on 18650 cells is the TrustFire T1 Q5 Cree LED torch. Small well built and kicks some light out. And drop in led units so when it come time for upgrades you don't have to spend out on a new torch! Just a small drop in led unit.
simonrl
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17 years ago
Not wishing to get into a debate about who's battery is best (partly because of a desire to stay impartial) but I think both have their advantages. Size and availability vs greater capacity.
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