Margot
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9 years ago
I read the article below, and I figured that gadget could come in handy undergound...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35926147 
Willy Eckerslyke
9 years ago
Neat. Seal a couple into a section of Parc for 6 months and ... oh hang on...
"The true crimefighter always carries everything he needs in his utility belt, Robin"
TwllMawr
9 years ago
"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote:

Neat. Seal a couple into a section of Parc for 6 months and ... oh hang on...



...:lol:

It probably needs a camper van volume of polystyrene as decor around its location as well!
AR
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9 years ago
Not just underground, the capability to do microgravity surveys opens up a lot of shaft/level tracing possibilities at surface
Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!
sinker
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9 years ago
Did a load of Gravimeter survey work, along with seismic surveying and 3.7km deep boreholes for Nirex all around the Windscale/Sellafied area in 1989/90. Incredibly tricky work....I think they are still "interpreting" the results even today! :lol: The results depend on applying "terrain corrections" to the readings....seem to remember sitting at the bar of the Flosch Hotel in Cleator Moor most nights filling in the blanks (in other words "making up the bits that we forgot to record on site"! 😉 )
Jennings on draught ;D


Yma O Hyd....
Yorkshireman
9 years ago
"sinker" wrote:


The results depend on applying "terrain corrections" to the readings



The nastiest, and unfortunately one of the most decisive, bits of seismic data processing - static corrections are torture to get right - up-hole times, shot depths, wave propagation velocities, shot and geophone positions, overburden, elevations, screwed up first breaks - get any of them wrong and what comes out is pure shite.

(suffered from them for over 30 years with Prakla-Seismos, Geco-Prakla, WesternGeco and Schlumberger)
staffordshirechina
9 years ago
It's all witchcraft.
sinker
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9 years ago
"staffordshirechina" wrote:

It's all witchcraft.



It's all made up , Les! :lol:
Yma O Hyd....
rufenig
9 years ago
Probably better off dowsing! :lol:

I bet that device needs a serious number crunching computer to get results.
Yorkshireman
9 years ago
"rufenig" wrote:

Probably better off dowsing! :lol:

I bet that device needs a serious number crunching computer to get results.



Geophysics uses/used some of the most powerful computers money can buy.

We had a Cray X-MP vector computer here in Germany - a massive beast (used by Prakla-Seismos for geophysical processing) that, together with Cyber 205 computers, PDP, computers, tape drives, cartridge silos, plotters and other ancillaries, took up a whole floor of the building and another floor just for power supply and air conditioning/cooling).

Today, you get the same number-crunching capability from a stack of mini-computers that fits in a broom cupboard.

rufenig
9 years ago
The article sounds like something Tomorrows World would have done.
Perhaps by the time this is ready computing power will be small enough to make it hand held.

Not holding my breath though.:)
Tony Blair
9 years ago
Very interesting. I imagine backfilled features will confuse it. Also many features close together, but perhaps covered/inaccessible.

I'm going to stick with a drill rig or digger for the minute!
Jimbo
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9 years ago
"staffordshirechina" wrote:

It's all witchcraft.



:thumbup::lol:
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Roger L
9 years ago
You can't beat dowsing with a stick and suspended stone or just the stone. All for under a fiver. Will be at the National Mining Museum on the 9th April Saturday with mine if you want to talk to me. It is the Geology day at the museum so I will be there with some maps from the 'Big Map' also my geology maps of sections through the coal field from West Yorkshire thro to Notts/Derby.
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rufenig
9 years ago
I was with a professional dowser one day who runs training courses. He could not find mine workings when I walked him over the Milwr tunnel on one site.
Roger L
9 years ago
I am finding shafts and adits and also the extent of underground workings with stick and stone dowsing

Mine Lectures & Walks available for around Huddersfield
Tamarmole
9 years ago
Dowsing is odd.

Fifteen or so years ago I used to be quite keen on dowsing with rods. I found that I could detect close to surface anomalies with a reasonable degree of accuracy, being able to trace pipes amongst other things. However when it came to deeper stuff like mines or caves I had no luck.

One evening in the pub I tried an experiment involving half a dozen people, none of whom had dowsed before. I took each person (using my rods) through various rooms in the pub which could not be seen from the bar. Five out of the six people got a reaction from the rods in the same place. This, according to the landlady corresponded to a large water pipe entering the building.

I am convinced that dowsing works, but I am b*ggered if I know why. The most convincing hypothesis I have heard is that the arm muscles are picking up minute variations in magnetic field caused by an anomaly and twitch accordingly, the reaction being magnified by the rods. Then again it might all be just a load of mumbo jumbo and I might be a self delusional yoghurt weaver 😉.
ttxela
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9 years ago
There was a CCC conservation officer who swore by Dowsing and claimed to be able to use it to find traces of old buildings, wall lines, hearths and the like. I saw him demonstrate it but then again that was on a known site.

When I first started work I met numerous JCB drivers and the like that always carried dowsing rods, although as with many things like that it was never entirely clear if they were serious or winding you up.

I suspect modern H&S/CDM stuff means its not so common now?
ttxela
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9 years ago
"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote:

Neat. Seal a couple into a section of Parc for 6 months and ... oh hang on...



I was on a trip into Parc a few weeks ago and saw the 'lab' I had no idea the movement was as much as 400mm!

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