Graigfawr
11 years ago
"AR" wrote:

This article by Lynn Willies contains a lot of information on smelting, and a good image of one of the Hollandia ingots:
http://www.pdmhs.com/PDFs/ScannedBulletinArticles/Bulletin%2011-1%20-%20Derbyshire%20Lead%20Smelting%20in%20the%20Eighteenth%20.pdf 



The image is of one of the Campen ingots.
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11 years ago
"toadstone" wrote:

Many years ago now there used to be a pub called the Pig o' Lead on Via Gellia just outside Cromford. Don't know if any readers here know the current owners of the converted property? There might have been some history, pictures or info passed on to them.
I had always intended going in there but the occasion never happened :(



That pub came up in one of my searches, so I assume it is still there.
Keith.

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and that has made all the difference.
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11 years ago
"AR" wrote:

This article by Lynn Willies contains a lot of information on smelting, and a good image of one of the Hollandia ingots:
http://www.pdmhs.com/PDFs/ScannedBulletinArticles/Bulletin%2011-1%20-%20Derbyshire%20Lead%20Smelting%20in%20the%20Eighteenth%20.pdf 



Yes I got that one AR, thanks.
Keith.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by,
and that has made all the difference.
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11 years ago
"Graigfawr" wrote:

In the iron trade, the channel off which the pig iron moulds branched was known as a 'sow', the analogy being a line of pigs suckling the sow. In the eighteenth century and earlier, 'sow iron' was priced and sold differently to 'pig iron'. The pig iron was the usual 3ft by 4in by 4in approx; sow iron was rather larger cross section (the only definte example I have seen was 6in by 4in cross-section) and was broken into shorter lengths than pig iron to make it easier to handle (the length I saw was around 26 to 30in long).

In the period this thread is concerned with, pig lead, unlike pig iron, was not cast en-masse direct from a furnace by being run in molten state down a channel, off which sows and pigs branched. Instead, lead (and also copper and tin) was ladled by hand from the refining furnace into individual cast iron moulds. The layering that is a prominant feature on many ingots of non-ferrous metals result from the slight cooling of the metal in the mould inbetween each ladleful being added.

Twentieth century photos of casting pig lead show the molten metal piped to individual cast iron moulds which were closely spaced and arranged in a semi-circle, the pipe being moved slightly sideways to each successive mould as the previous one filled up.



Thank you, very interesting. That makes more sense to me now.
Appreciated.
Keith.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by,
and that has made all the difference.
Robert Frost.
http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com.au 
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11 years ago
"Le Loup" wrote:

"toadstone" wrote:

Many years ago now there used to be a pub called the Pig o' Lead on Via Gellia just outside Cromford. Don't know if any readers here know the current owners of the converted property? There might have been some history, pictures or info passed on to them.
I had always intended going in there but the occasion never happened :(



That pub came up in one of my searches, so I assume it is still there.
Keith.



It's now a B&B rather than a pub.
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staffordshirechina
11 years ago
We used the Pig of Lead regularly when working at Goodluck mine in the 70's.
It was a modernish building, completely soul-less and having no historical information or history at all.
The beer was usually fairly poor too but needs must when it was nearly closing time.......
exspelio
11 years ago
Back in the '60's when I was an underage cyclist they used to do a really nice hot cornish pasty from off sales just inside the front door. 😉
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11 years ago
"staffordshirechina" wrote:

We used the Pig of Lead regularly when working at Goodluck mine in the 70's.
It was a modernish building, completely soul-less and having no historical information or history at all.
The beer was usually fairly poor too but needs must when it was nearly closing time.......



Of course nowadays if we're in need of post-underground refreshment in the Via Gellia area, we do the sensible thing and go up the Clatterway, turn left at the fountain and visit the Barleymow at Uppertown for fine ales and chip butties....
Follow the horses, Johnny my laddie, follow the horses canny lad-oh!
toadstone
11 years ago
"staffordshirechina" wrote:

We used the Pig of Lead regularly when working at Goodluck mine in the 70's.
It was a modernish building, completely soul-less and having no historical information or history at all.
The beer was usually fairly poor too but needs must when it was nearly closing time.......



Well there you go, I feel much better for knowing that :flowers:
I hate missing out on a good pub even though I might only visit it once.
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11 years ago
Aside from the history, that is something else I miss about England, the pubs. They are just not the same over here. Not as friendly & they don't have that atmosphere that English pubs have. I don't go into pubs here.
Keith.

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by,
and that has made all the difference.
Robert Frost.
http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com.au 
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11 years ago
For any of you who are interested, this is what I have so far. Research is as all of you probably know an ongoing activity.
http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/research-small-bar-lead-for-making-shot.html 

Regards, Keith.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less travelled by,
and that has made all the difference.
Robert Frost.
http://woodsrunnersdiary.blogspot.com.au 

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